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[–] oktoberpaard@feddit.nl 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The Netherlands:

  • minimum of 20 days of paid leave
  • public holidays are up to the employers to decide, but in practice most public holidays are additional paid leave in most cases
  • public holidays during the weekend are not moved to weekdays like they are in some other countries
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[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

GOP: "Filthy evil socialism by country. USA best #1, 0 Socialism, all hail glorious leader!"

[–] J92@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

If you work at sea with a favourable contract, you can be off for 182 days a year.

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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

PTO in the US is at least dependent on which state you’re in. NJ has PTO mandates for full time employees. It’s pathetically low, but still better than most states.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Right. Maps like these always forget the US is more like the EU as its made up of sovereign states.

And totally agree, the states can, and should, do a hell of a lot better.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The Divided States of Trashcanistan looking good again.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 2 points 3 days ago

Stealing that, fellow trashcanistanian here.

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Hell yeah, best of Latin America

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Cannot understand American employer's reluctance to give out PTO. Someone check my logic?

Regardless of PTO granted, the employer is going to be paying $X for 40-hours a week, 52 weeks a year. They're out nothing!

The obvious counter is that they're out that employees productivity. Now think about the places you've worked. Unless it's a fairly high-end, specialized job, the work is getting done regardless. When someone on your team takes PTO, everyone else picks up the slack.

For a large company there is an argument to be made that they have to hire more people to fill in the rotating PTO gaps through the year. A new employee is a significant cost. Recruiting, advertising, HR and IT onboarding, training, and one no one thinks or knows about, the upfront costs of unemployment insurance.

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As much As I agree that pto needs to be required, it's simply pure white collar thinking to think that more people don't need to be hired to cover for vacations. In blue collar, labor jobs, the employer needs to hire temp workers (as my area does) or give other employees considerably more hours(some locals have flex employees that do pt most of the year and ft during vacation periods). The employer is out the wages it costs to pay the cover, it is not free. And the employer should be paying that.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

New employees cost real money. Posted this yesterday:

Advertising, interviewing, HR and IT onboarding, extra unemployment taxes on the initial income, training, all that stacks. Also, consider how useless a new employee is vs. one that's been on task for some time. And that employee is taking valuable time from an experienced worker!

People are a pain in the ass, I'm sure we'll agree. :) More people, more pain in the ass. The woman who handled scheduling at Lowe's caught grief every day. Well fuck me, she's not trained in HR and has to deal with 200 people's wants and needs. I felt sorry for her.

But back on topic,

The employer is out the wages it costs to pay the cover

That's the point I can't get my head around. The employer is already paying X people for Y job. Someone getting PTO costs them nothing as the remaining people work harder to cover. Does that make sense? I feel my argument is lacking common sense I'm not seeing.

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[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So a map that shows who is required to give the most time off. One can still give more than is required.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago

In Australia, it's rare to get more than 4 weeks. Government jobs will often give 6 weeks, but the minimum is 4 weeks, and most companies don't deviate from that.

[–] FBJimmy@lemmus.org 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Second paragraph is wrong - UK law mandates 20 paid days off, plus there are 8 paid public holiday days

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 1 points 3 days ago

Technically not true, companies don't have to give you bank holidays off as long as you get the right number of days in total (e.g. shops that are open on bank holidays), it's just that most places just give you the bank holidays (so the image is technically correct but a bit misleading)

[–] Shaper@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

The relative size of continents in this image can get hilarious at times. The west is truly brainrot.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 days ago (6 children)

when Yemen is the top of the pack, one starts to wonder... maybe what we're presenting isn't a great measurement of human happiness?

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[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Lol, all of the Mexican countries wreck the US in paid time off

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[–] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 days ago

According to my swiss friend they actually have 4 weeks of paid time off, so I'm confused.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Japan has 16 public holidays, at least according to this: https://publicholidays.jp/2025-dates/

[–] JeSuisUnHombre@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What about paid public holidays?

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

0 of them are specifically codified in employment law as paid time off or a day to be taken off, however are considered by default as non-work days in law so working that day would, in most cases be entitled to overtime pay increase or alternatively a replacement day off. They are also culturally accepted as days off, and there are other holidays like Obon festival next week where taking time off is very common.

Technically speaking the minimum is zero paid leave for new employees, but after a continuous 6 months of 5 days or 30h/week work or more with good attendance, an employee is entitled by law to 10 days of paid leave (likely the figure cited) which scales gradually each year to 20 at 6.5 years tenure. Part time employees receive a partial entitlement which is as little as 1 day off if 48-72 days is worked in a year (1 day/week).

So it's complicated, unless the source for the map used a standard method for all countries to compare equally (e.g. a full time employee's minimum legal entitlement after 12 months at a company).

[–] JeSuisUnHombre@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

Some kind of a standard method. Similarly in the states, there is 0 PTO required by law, though it's common for places to offer some amount and include federal holidays.

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