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[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 57 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Please yes. Please Europe, make the market for open source gigantic.

[–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

This is your way out of America's big tech nightmare. Take it. Run with it. Never give it up.

[–] cheeseburger@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 month ago

Europe gives me hope for so many things that benefit us peons.

[–] gasgiant@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Maybe I'm just old and cynical but after dieselgate I do wonder if this is just to make any kind of illegal software based stuff harder to detect and attribute to one firm.

Unless this is the exception of private firms choosing the best solution. Rather than the one that best protects their profits....

Plus are there really masses of customers crying out for a carplay/android integration alternative?

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 month ago

not requiring putting up with google/apples telemetry and having up to date maps/navigation and music via ones own phone would be great.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If a manufacturer uses software to do illegal things, they themselves are responsible for that, no matter who developed the software...

Morally and logically; yes. Legally: NUH UH

[–] yyprum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hi just old and cynical, I'm old and cynical dad. So yeah, I immediately started wondering what could be the angle here for the firms pushing it. It is not from the goodness of their nonexistent hearts, so what is there to benefit...

I don't think it would be to have harder to detect anything, it would probably be easier to detect if anything.

I'd wager it is just the fact that these firms are crap at making software. They realize they are lagging behind, and don't want to depend on 3rd party solutions that can fuck them over later on or reduce the value of their cars if the support is ever dropped or updates are stopped (by them or the 3rd party).

So by pushing for free software they are trying to remove the cost of licenses of 3rd party software, the cost of maintenance, and the cost of development. Any issues or problems, they can also shift the blame. They'd also be removing software as a factor to compare cars, which I'm sure is something making them look bad right now.

But at the end it feels like a net win for buyers, so it may just end up being the most sensible solution and at the same time profitable for these firms. And even if the general public is not really demanding for this, I'm sure the car firms using this will sell it as the more private option, and everyone likes it when they tell you google, apple or others won't be tracking you.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Capitalism: right twice a ~~day~~ century (but don't worry; they'll fuck it on implementation)

[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

This is great! Maybe we won't need to go out of our way to find old dumb cars now.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

But then how would they hide the emissions cheating?