Either that or she'll tragically take her own life while the guards are on break and the cameras are down.
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The neat thing about pardons is if you accept one you lose your 5th amendment rights around the subject, and be compelled to testify.
Something tells me an enabler of this level will have no problems with pesky moral hurdles like oaths or the truth.
Testify in another court case or could congress subpoena her?
Both
Or jd Vance will give the pardon after they burry Trump… CONSPIRACY
I can't believe no one has commented this yet.
She's not going to say there's no list. She's going to say she has the list and it's conveniently going to contain all of trump's enemies .... probably including Obama.
Then why hide it?
because it's fake ... I'm implying the orange king boy rapist is going to offer her a pardon in exchange for lying under oath
Yup, they’re going to have her lie and then produce doctored documents with the name of political opponents and have them dragged off in unmarked vans
Why marked vans? WHen you can have your deranged supporters wearing a mask and a police outfit and make a wellness check at 2am in the morning...still can't believe that dude shot the dog too, what a piece of shit.
Only because ICE uses unmarked vans and they're basically his Gestapo
it's all jimmy carter's doing
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Breaking news: Maxwell has been shot while trying to escape, in the back of the head. After a brief investigation her death has been ruled suicide by cop. Jk, unless...
It's really not that unreasonable. If I fell out of a high-rise window, I'd probably try to off myself mid-air on the way down, too, rather than face the terror of the rest of the plunge.
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Pardoning Maxwell would be an insanely bad idea. The MAGA world love two things more than anything else; conspiracy theories, and imagining themselves in an endless war against a cabal of powerful pedophiles.
Maxwell directly aided and abetted one of those powerful pedophiles. To MAGA, there is no possible justification for pardoning her. It would be tantamount to a full admission from Trump, and it would send their conspiracy addled minds into overdrive. At best (for him), they'd wonder what kind of leverage she has over Trump in order to buy herself a pardon. If not evidence of pedophilia, then surely something else, right?
Is Maxwell angling for a pardon? Almost certainly. But giving her one would be a suicidal move for the administration right now.
Well I mean bottom line is, it's a damned if he does damned if he doesn't situation.
She gets killed, that's insane fuel to the fire.
Trump pardons her... that's as good as admitting they are working together.
She actually tells what she knows, trumps fucked.
So... if you ask me based on a raw strategy... the DOJ is going to let the sweetheart deal appeal happen, and maxwell will comit perjury, say she happened to be in some of the places trump was, but never were that close and that trump always considered epstein a creep and kicked them out of marlago.
He doesn’t have to go as far as pardoning her. It can be a plea deal type of thing. That will require some level of cooperation from the courts, which is probably what they are negotiating right now. She has no leverage to make threats (“pardon me or I’ll expose you”) because her life is already forfeit, as Epstein’s death shows. So she’ll go along with even a weak deal like a long prison stance but under more comfortable conditions, with perhaps some assurances she won’t suddenly commit suicide.
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My MiL is deep MAGA. The only thing true is that whatever the outcome, she will regurgitate the Trump talking points. They could tell her Maxwell was a secret agent for Trump in the 90s, and she would buy it.
I don’t know if you’re close to anyone MAGA, but it is truly a blind cult. The Right just needs to find a palpable enough angle to spin.
I think more dangerous for this regime is other people know what’s on the list. She’s not the only one.
But will that stop them from supporting a 3rd term bid?
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She’d be stupid to take any deal, she’ll be dead before the term is over, regardless of a possible pardon. He can’t risk her talking under a potential different government.
Honestly I think different there... she's not dumb, she's got killer contacts, and she knows what happened to Epstein. In her shoes. I'd have used whatever I can to rig up a dead mans switch, then put pressure onto trump to get her out of there.
He still has the problem of obviously pardoning a woman convicted of heinous crimes involving trafficking of young girls to facilitate Epstein.
It wasn't a problem when he pardoned hundreds of violent traitors and insurrectionists.
It wasn't a problem when he himself was found guilty of SA and convicted of multiple felonies.
It wasn't a problem when he admitted he would like to bang his daughter.
It wasn't a problem when he said he could murder someone in broad daylight and not face any consequences.
Somehow I think this won't be a problem either.
Yeah, it won't even be given the slightest consideration.
sure but this appears to be the singular thing that will not go away no matter what. like they keep throwing completely random inane things to flood the zone, but it feels as though the zone is oversaturated and cant flood anymore
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It is one of my "old man yell at cloud" moment, but he doesn't give a shit. He has dodged every consequence of his actions until now. Why would that be different now?
Then why would he do it in the first place?
He seems like more of a "can I?" than a "should I?" guy on the Ian Malcolm ethical spectrum.
how is that a problem for him?... everybody already knows he is a rapist and convicted felon and Muricans still elected him president
Yep, either they actually voted for him or the votes were juiced (“No-one knows these machines better than Elon.”). Him obviously being a scumbag makes no difference in either of those scenarios.
I'm responding the possibility of him doing so, as raised by others. If that's not a problem for him then neither is him being in the files, negating the need to pardon Maxwell.
There gotta be some kinda check on a president using a pardon when he is personally tied to the case.
Er ... no. At this point, the presidency can do pretty much whatever it wants. You may be thinking that I am using hyperbole, but I am not. The Supreme Court determined that, as long as the president says, "I'm acting as the president!", whatever action that follows is excempt from prosecution.
It doesn't seem to matter even if there is.
The Republican Party doesn't want to impeach him. Some of Democrat Party do, but their efforts get squashed by the Republicans and the other half of their own party.
He can't be held personally accountable for abusing his power in this case either, thanks to SCrOTUS basically saying that official presidency acts are above the law.
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Apparently pardons don't need to made public and they could offer a pardon that takes effect on a future date. She's in a federal prison so they put her in some really nice conditions in club fed until that date.
So we won't know she was pardoned until she walks out of the prison.
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