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[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 57 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Mouse -> Mice

Louse -> Lice

House -> Hice

[–] teft@piefed.world 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

ox - oxen
box - boxen
equinox - equinoxen
xerox - xeroxen

[–] foofiepie@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Die - Dice
Pie - Pice
Tie - Tice
Lie - Lice

[–] teft@piefed.world 13 points 2 months ago

All these lice and misinformation....smh

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Lice <- Louse
Tice <- Touse
Pice <- Pouse
Dice <- Douse

[–] hobovision@mander.xyz 3 points 2 months ago

But also

die - dies

If we're talking about tools.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Moose -> Moose

Cher -> Cher

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Check out this sweet moof!

[–] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

I checked out your ma's sweet moof last night 👉😏👉

[–] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I'll accept groof if it means we get moof and rooves.

[–] don@lemmy.ca 29 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Language is descriptive, so there’s nothing stopping you from using “rooves”, other than what typically results from using words others may not understand. Get enough people over long enough a timeline, and “rooves” becomes the norm, and “roofs” becomes archaic. Just gotta put in the effort.

[–] bran_buckler@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] don@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not really, unless they're booving that groofy moof. Then, they're lost to us, in the land of boxen and meeses.

[–] don@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

That sounds exactly like the kind of thing a dirty groofer would say!

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[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Dialectic morphology is a mofo.

eg. "w00t" is a word. 🤮

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[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Linguistics is a descriptive science.

Language though is not science, it's a cultural practice. Adhering to a specific set of rules to signal belonging to a specific cultural subgroup is perfectly normal; and deviation from those rules is not a socially neutral act. When and how you deviate signals a lot of things about you and what you're saying.

That's why slang is fascinating. It always tells a story. Whether it's English Prep School jargon that breached containment, whitewashed AAVL, group in-jokes, unconventional emojis, etc., a slang word says a lot about the person who uses it.

That is to say, if you unironically start saying "rooves", I can't say whether you'll start a trend that will ultimately change English forever (weirder things have happened). But I can assure you that the immediate effect will be that people will label you "tumblr weirdo". Which would be a correct assessment, so that's effective subtextual communication. Yay linguistics!

[–] ThisIsNotHim@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago

I think I've been saying rooves my whole life. I don't think I'd generally write it that way, but it feels more natural to say.

If I have, I'm not sure anyone's noticed. My speech patterns are odd though, so it might not be terribly noticable. It's also possible I've never had to say the word. It's not common that you need to pluralize roof.

[–] HellieSkellie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Explain prescriptive linguistics

[–] Sadbutdru@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

My personal one of these is just saying "I'll" as a response to questions like "Will you ...?" or "Who will ...?".

If it's a contraction of "I will", it should work, but somehow it sounds weird, like it disrupts the expected pattern of emphasis.

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago
[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Because the English language is known for its rigid consistency of pluralization.

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

This dude thinks that the singular of hooves is "hoove"

[–] EffortlessEffluvium@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 months ago

I am Groof.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

rooves and roofs are both accepted as correct though? Roofs being the standard is a pretty new thing, and not the more common one everywhere

[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 9 points 2 months ago

I haven't once seen 'rooves' used, let alone be considered as correct.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wiktionary says it changed in the 17th century, so depending on your definition of "new", sure. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/roofs

It doesn't sound weird to me personally, although it does look weird when written out.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

It is how I was taught in the 80s, and I went to school in Europe, and the US. So, pretty recently it was quite common.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago
[–] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Okay, but think about this: Groofy.

As soon as I typed that, I changed my mind. No longer defending groof.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago

One might say it sounds ... goofy.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They're on the roof, they've found the groof

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[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

You beat me to it. When I saw this post I wondered if this is where they got the word from lol

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 4 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Would most native speakers actually pronounce "rooves" differently from "roofs"? Is "grooves" already pronounced differently from a hypothetical "groofs"?

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 3 points 2 months ago

There is a difference, but it depends on accent. I don't think anyone would notice in speech if you switched though

[–] Squirrelsdrivemenuts@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I think there is a slight difference. Ooves is slightly longer and softer sounding than oofs.

[–] teft@piefed.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

f is the voiceless labiodental fricative and v is the voiced labiodental fricative.

Basically for roofs your vocal cords don't vibrate on the final f sound. For rooves your vocal cords vibrate on the final v sound.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I know the difference between f and v, the question is whether it makes a difference in this specific case and if yes, whether most native English speakers actually know that. I'm not a native English speaker and words that end in -ooves aren't that common (when is the last time you said "grooves" or "hooves"?).

English is famously inconsistent about how written letters are pronounced, and there are a lot of accents.

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[–] skrrtly_ambrose@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

the plural of roof should be roof. fite me

[–] m_xy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

milf - milves

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

We are groof.

[–] BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago

I propose we use roofies! It sounds cute and probably isn't taken already.

[–] 5parky@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

The trooves are out there.

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