Hey, if the stars and planets affect people's behaviour... Just saying.
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I dunno, I've heard many women and gays complaining that Mercury is retrograding them, or something. /s
Only people can oppress people.
A lot of folk religions exalt third genders and women into religious positions. It is the major world religions who put down women and third genders are the problem.
Astrology has specifically oppressed swaths of women in the Indian subcontinent. Search for "manglik" for starters.
I’ve seen plenty of instances of people being treated unfairly and unjustly due to religious astrology beliefs. Especially women (of Indian descent, also Chinese but my experience is more limited there).
my boy andres had a girl reject him just because he's a vigo
One of the weirdest far-right slurs I've seen flung at Muslims is "Moon Worshiper". Like, someone on AM Radio must have gone on a serious tear, because it comes up in reactionary church sermons and Facebook posts and the occasional Congressional exchange.
Something about having even a casual association with extraterrestrial bodies really sets Christian Conservatives off.
That is kinda weird, but I don't think it's that much weirder than some random wannabe slur with "cross" in it.
Those morons just have seen the symbols of Islam and don't know what they symbolise or where they come from, or that they in fact aren't the objects of worship.
Extremely white bitch. I got it too!
It turns out shit people will use anything as an excuse to be shit. Makes dating hard(er).
A belief system that makes claims which are demonstrably untrue is susceptible to being used to oppress people (or elevate them unnecessarily).
Astrology is bunk. Yes I am fun at parties.
It is legit frustrating to see "my superstition never hurt anyone" in the minority very quickly become "we're rounding up all the non-believers" as soon as that same group get an ounce of power.
FFS, waves hand at Israel. Also, the Mormons, the Scientologists, Jonestown...
Additionally, the stars and moon actually exist.
If the moon doesn't oppress women, then why is the menstrual cycle the same length as the lunar cycle?
Checkmate, ~~atheists~~ astrologists!
Thats only cis women though.
And also some trans men.
And some genderqueers.
So...
in other news, you're not racist if you only oppress 98% of black people but allow a small number through.
Depends how fine a mesh youre using, moisture content, all sorts of stuff im.not an expert in.
okay, yes, I agree, but your mesh is poor in the point you were making. It's not transphobic to say that society is misogynistic if it makes life hard for people with afab anatomy. And uh... that the moon is oppressing women too I guess? What were we even talking about...
Rebellion against heaven, mocking the laws of man and god as we shatter the spheres of oppression that mock us nightly and, you know... Do stuff.
sounds like we're in agreement
But not because they're bigot-rocks, just because its cool. Whether they're bigot rocks or not.
Sorry to go all Godwin's law, but astrology can and has been used as a tool of oppression. Nazi Germany had a state-sponsored astrologer, Karl Ernst Krafft, appointed by Deputy Führer Rudolf Hess and Chief Propagandist Joseph Goebbels. Krafft was employed to write astrological propaganda that justified anti-semitism on the basis of celestial events. He was also tasked with using astrological observations to predict threats to the Führer Adolf Hitler and offer military advice.
Ultimately, it's not the stars and Moon that do the oppression, just whoever is in charge of divining their meaning, which is also pretty much how religious oppression works.
Reagan too. Basically his whole second term was just his astrologer.
It's almost as if certain types of people want to be assholes but want an irrefutable entity to say it's okay.
Never trust someone else's imaginary friend over one's own.
Here's a thought: go one further. Kill all gods & masters.
We will only be free when the last monarch is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.
Repair world hunger with a woodchipper & fertilizer tumbler... Yeet The Rich.
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Nancy Reagan had an astrologer.
Nancy Reagan has an astrologer.
Does he pack a shovel if she calls him?
Changed my verb tense. :)
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there's one star that is oppressing albino women and gays though
Given the chance, Saturn would remove women's right to vote.
Typical Saturn energy.
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One could argue that they lift people up, since there's a slight canceling of the effect of Earth's gravity when they're over head. Conversely, the opposite is true when they're on the other side of the planet.
The gravitational effect is only meaningful from the Moon and the Sun.
The Moon obviously affects the tides, and is very, very slowly making our days longer.
The Sun is ... you know, the center of the Solar System, defines our entire orbit, our year.
Nothing else is massive enough or close enough to have a meaningful gravitational impact.
Right, the post mentions "the Moon and stars." Last I checked, the Moon is still the Moon and the Sun is a star.
Also, I didn't say anything about the effect being meaningful. An effect that is non-zero is still an effect even if it is negligible.
I mean, if you want to be this pedantic...
'the stars'
99.999...% of 'the stars' are not the Sun.
99.999...% of 'the Moon and the stars' are neither the Moon nor the Sun.
And... I know you didn't say meaningful.
I did. That's my counter argument to your ... hypothetical? argument.
Further, when I say 'negligible' I mean... not actually empirically observable, not statistically different from 0, thus you could not establish any kind of causal mechanism with any legitimate basis.
Sure, you could calculate a theory of the difference of overall gravitational effect of 'the stars', but its going to be again negligible compared to local gravitational variances of the Earth itself, due to the Earth not being perfectly uniformly spherical, nor perfectly radially uniformly dense.
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