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[–] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I dunno, I've heard many women and gays complaining that Mercury is retrograding them, or something. /s

[–] 000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 days ago

Astrology has specifically oppressed swaths of women in the Indian subcontinent. Search for "manglik" for starters.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I’ve seen plenty of instances of people being treated unfairly and unjustly due to religious astrology beliefs. Especially women (of Indian descent, also Chinese but my experience is more limited there).

my boy andres had a girl reject him just because he's a vigo

Extremely white bitch. I got it too!

It turns out shit people will use anything as an excuse to be shit. Makes dating hard(er).

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

One of the weirdest far-right slurs I've seen flung at Muslims is "Moon Worshiper". Like, someone on AM Radio must have gone on a serious tear, because it comes up in reactionary church sermons and Facebook posts and the occasional Congressional exchange.

Something about having even a casual association with extraterrestrial bodies really sets Christian Conservatives off.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

That is kinda weird, but I don't think it's that much weirder than some random wannabe slur with "cross" in it.

Those morons just have seen the symbols of Islam and don't know what they symbolise or where they come from, or that they in fact aren't the objects of worship.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbols_of_Islam

[–] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A belief system that makes claims which are demonstrably untrue is susceptible to being used to oppress people (or elevate them unnecessarily).

Astrology is bunk. Yes I am fun at parties.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

It is legit frustrating to see "my superstition never hurt anyone" in the minority very quickly become "we're rounding up all the non-believers" as soon as that same group get an ounce of power.

FFS, waves hand at Israel. Also, the Mormons, the Scientologists, Jonestown...

[–] vaguerant@fedia.io 146 points 3 days ago (14 children)

Sorry to go all Godwin's law, but astrology can and has been used as a tool of oppression. Nazi Germany had a state-sponsored astrologer, Karl Ernst Krafft, appointed by Deputy Führer Rudolf Hess and Chief Propagandist Joseph Goebbels. Krafft was employed to write astrological propaganda that justified anti-semitism on the basis of celestial events. He was also tasked with using astrological observations to predict threats to the Führer Adolf Hitler and offer military advice.

Ultimately, it's not the stars and Moon that do the oppression, just whoever is in charge of divining their meaning, which is also pretty much how religious oppression works.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's almost as if certain types of people want to be assholes but want an irrefutable entity to say it's okay.

[–] nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Never trust someone else's imaginary friend over one's own.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Here's a thought: go one further. Kill all gods & masters.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We will only be free when the last monarch is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago

Repair world hunger with a woodchipper & fertilizer tumbler... Yeet The Rich.

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Nancy Reagan had an astrologer.

[–] PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Nancy Reagan has an astrologer.

Does he pack a shovel if she calls him?

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Changed my verb tense. :)

Reagan too. Basically his whole second term was just his astrologer.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

Only people can oppress people.

[–] neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 days ago

Additionally, the stars and moon actually exist.

[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If the moon doesn't oppress women, then why is the menstrual cycle the same length as the lunar cycle?

Checkmate, ~~atheists~~ astrologists!

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thats only cis women though.

And also some trans men.

And some genderqueers.

So...

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

in other news, you're not racist if you only oppress 98% of black people but allow a small number through.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Depends how fine a mesh youre using, moisture content, all sorts of stuff im.not an expert in.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

okay, yes, I agree, but your mesh is poor in the point you were making. It's not transphobic to say that society is misogynistic if it makes life hard for people with afab anatomy. And uh... that the moon is oppressing women too I guess? What were we even talking about...

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Rebellion against heaven, mocking the laws of man and god as we shatter the spheres of oppression that mock us nightly and, you know... Do stuff.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

sounds like we're in agreement

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

But not because they're bigot-rocks, just because its cool. Whether they're bigot rocks or not.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

might be bigot-rocks, but it could just be cheese. We should send some witchy astronauts up to double-check :)

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The astronauts aren't witchy. Youre thinking of the rocket scientists.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No i mean astronauts tend to be 'right stuff' test pilot types, even today.

But rocket scientists have historically all been into the weirdest esoteric shit. Maybe correlation with handling all thatvrecursive math, idk. The nazi set were like allin the thule society, the american JPL guys were all doijg weird wizard shit out in the mojave-jack parsons, in one of the many sex cults he partook of, actually got cucked by (and managed to be weirder than) L ron hubbard. The soviet rocket scientists were all cosmists, and if you dont know what that is, look it up, it's genuinely cool.

This has at least historically been a real thing. Though today as far as i know it's just a milder version of sysadmins; more trans women and furries than you'd expect.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Given the chance, Saturn would remove women's right to vote.

[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Typical Saturn energy.

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[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Hey, if the stars and planets affect people's behaviour... Just saying.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

A lot of folk religions exalt third genders and women into religious positions. It is the major world religions who put down women and third genders are the problem.

there's one star that is oppressing albino women and gays though

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