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[–] nate3d@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Just switched to Fedora Kinoite and I’m loving the immutability of the OS. Oh bad update? lol rollback and golden. Can’t do that shit with each bloatware force push from MS

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, good thing, too. They just broke the lock screen this week. That was an annoying half an hour of troubleshooting to do in the middle of a work day.

Pros and cons in each, I suppose.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

They just broke

Who did? I didn't quite follow.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A KDE update broke its lock screen. Locking the computer would bring up a message reading "The lock screen is broken and doesn't work anymore, to unlock the computer, hit Ctrl+Alt+F1, login and enter this command."

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Interesting that there's a "failsafe" like that though.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hah. Those used to be a lot more common, this is actually a bit of a blast from the past.

Early graphical Linux interfaces were constantly breaking and telling you to go back to a terminal to restart your X server or fix whatever was broken manually.

That used to be the "but you have to use the terminal" of very early Linux, back when "can you install Debian from scratch?" was the old "can you install Arch from scratch?"

Man, I'm old.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

It's a thing on hyprlock as well 🙂 If I ssh into my desktop and kill hyprlock, it will give me instructions on how to get it running again.

Yeah actual error messages with helpful information are a thing on Linux.

The last time I tried to install Windows on something, there was some problem with the BIOS config, and Windows would get part of the way through installing and then a "FAILED TO INSTALL ERROR 0xA9BF4DAFDEB99B7AD46" or something. Installing Linux on the same machine said "Unable to install due to BIOS config. See here for details." "here" was a hyperlink to the Ubuntu wiki, which you could open in Firefox because this is a live session with the whole desktop there, not some useless installer environment, nevertheless it gave a QR code to the same wiki page so you could visit it on a mobile device if you wanted to.

It's like it's meant to be used by humans, not the Borg. And not even like Borg Queen Seven of Nine Borg, like TNG era Borg.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't know who made the offending changes. I don't think it's fixed yet, I'm using a workaround at the moment.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maintainers, I guess, as in, the update that was rolled out, was broken for some users. But I don't know if that's the case here

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I meant MS or KDE.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Been running Bazzite for a while now, and love it. Basically Kinoite but built for gaming.

Took me a little bit to get a grasp on ostree, but I really like it.

[–] PolarKraken@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago

Just wanna add another Bazzite recommendation! If you're on the fence and feeling like "but my games!" - Bazzite's got your back. Shit works great.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 32 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I mean, just to be clear on what that looks like...

That'd be the red line, there. Assuming you take Statcounter numbers at face value, even.

Incidentally, how have the MacOS and OSX not converged more, speaking of end of life stuff?

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also note the drop in Chrome OS mirrors the rise in Linux so I wouldn't rule out this just being user agent changes.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 10 points 1 month ago

Statcounter is... a valid proxy, but I don't know if I trust it for fine grain changes. Big trends, maybe. Windows overall certainly seems to have lost some ground over time. Whether that's desktop PCs becoming less popular, the laptop market moving a bit towards Mac, the handheld market being weirdly represented because this only counts devices used for web browsers or whatever else is harder to parse.

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Why do they even have two lines for OS X and macOS? It's the same thing.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago

They officially changed the name in 2016. I have to assume they changed what the browser reports earlier this year. For tracking purposes it would probably make more sense to count the ARM version separately from the Intel version, but I don't know if that's correlated to this change or what is. I'm not a MacOS user, though, so maybe the change is public knowledge and I just don't know about it.

[–] 17lifers@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

statcounter checks user agent strings. it probably depends on the mac browser used to report the user agent string.

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago

I know. Then they process those user agent strings to decide what OS it is. The question is why are they treating OSX and macOS as different OSes when they are the same? It was literally just a rebrand.

[–] illusionist@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

Thanks for the analysis!

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It is already the year of the Linux Desktop for me and has been for years. Anyone who run GNU+Linux exclusively is already there.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Every year is the year of the Linux desktop

[–] foo@feddit.uk 3 points 1 month ago

Me too, since 2016. I dabbled in dual-booting on and off since about 2k, but went full Linux in 2016 and have never looked back.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Living in Finland is doubly humiliating. The country where Linux started, and IT chiefs almost in every company are going "oh yeah? I'm gonna use Microsoft products even harder"

I don't like to say this about people I don't know but fucking idiots, man.

[–] teppa@piefed.ca 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Europe breaks their own procurement laws to choose Windows, because they are idiots.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago

because they are corrupt

[–] morto@piefed.social 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nice to see the word unprecedented before some good news!

[–] 17lifers@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 month ago

best headline of 2025

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 12 points 1 month ago

Honestly I wasn't expecting to see a significant increase. It's a nice surprise. If we get to 6-7% Linux will be much harder to ignore for software and hardware providers. Personally I'm good on software but better wifi drivers would be welcomed.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I'm guessing that isn't the only reason.

[–] Babalugats@feddit.uk 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don't want them to, but I don't get why Microsoft don't just roll out updates the way Android/Linux do. Free. They've already adopted the Google method of moneymaking by embedding spyware into everything in the OS. Surely they could stop most of their headaches by doing that? Not that I care. Linux user here for roughly 16 years, sometimes having to go back to Windows hurts. It hurt a lot recently, having to dig out an old windows laptop to ironically install Ubuntu touch on to a phone (OnePlus Nord N10). I had tons of updates and had to install features and so much other stuff just to use it. 🤕

[–] Mio@feddit.nu 3 points 1 month ago

I think this is good. This means increased competition and that the none compatible Windows computers can keep running without going to the trash bin - better for the environment.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 month ago

Unfortunately a https://xkcd.com/1102/ situation