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[–] hayk@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

7mil Ukrainians. wow, that's a number

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Modern estimates tend closer to 3-5 million, but 1984 was before the opening of the Soviet archives to researchers.

[–] hayk@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

what I really meant is that it's quite a bullshit. Stalinist repressions affected a wide range of nationalities and likely total around a million. this includes dekulakization which was pretty much a necessity given the economic circumstances. the number of Ukrainians affected is unlikely to be in millions (I also don't think it's morally right to isolate a single nation, since they were all a single country). I think often the people mix up the # of deaths during the famine with Stalin's repressions, which is quite a stretch, since the former was really hard to avoid given the damages done during the civil war.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

I also don't think it's morally right to isolate a single nation, since they were all a single country

They were all Russian, so fuck 'em? That statement is confusing, to say the least.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

nearly all of diaspora, descendants of volunteer ww2 nazis fleeing USSR war crimes "persecutions"