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[–] a14o@feddit.org 99 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Last weekend a friend told me that they're involved in an activist group that focuses on political education for people with learning disabilities and severe mental health issues. The activists' reasoning is that this group of people is very susceptible to fascist narratives, and prone to social isolation when they start adopting or simply repeating fascist world views.

Fascists of course have no trouble claiming that support as validation for their politics, and votes are votes, after all. One could even argue that fascist propaganda inherently targets people with reduced intellectual capabilities.

This post made me think of that.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That's not just an argument, that's fact. Fascists and Republicans (yeah yeah, "same picture") both actively campaign to the unintelligent and/or uneducated. Fear is a primal emotion and they love to stoke it

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 week ago

After he won the Nevada Republican caucuses in 2016, the current President crowed his victory. “We won with young. We won with old. We won with highly educated. We won with poorly educated. I love the poorly educated.” Congressman Bobby Scott (D-VA) reflected on this comment as he asked Republicans to join Democrats in preserving the Department of Education.

https://chicagocrusader.com/trump-loves-the-poorly-educated/

[–] a14o@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No doubt that they do. I'm just not sure if it's productive to say that this is an inherent characteristic to fascist propaganda, or if that's trivializing the issue, since many intelligent and educated people are also drawn to it. Minor point of distinction though, I grant you that.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Absolutely it’s productive, and important. Also maybe I have the barest semblance of standards but it’s essentially a requirement to be at least a little fucking stupid in order to support right-wing policies.

Also, if you go off about how having a university degree and/or having specialized knowledge in one or a couple things is equal to general intelligence and the kind which enables solid critical thinking skills then I have bad news about which side you may likely fall on. I know many people good at their little tasks who are ultimately not people I fully trust to make good decisions on their own.

[–] a14o@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

We're talking about intelligence here, a concept that comes with a lot of baggage, so I agree that it's good to be precise. Critical thinking skills and good decision-making is definitely part of what I meant when I posted my comment.

In my opinion, your use of the term is in danger of

  1. essentializing intelligence: "This fascist may have a good education and specialized skills, but they are not in and of themselves intelligent." I think it's better to think of intelligence as a contingent and situational social effect rather than as an inherent property of a person.
  2. becoming a tautology: "Intelligent people could never support this, therefore I know that all fascists are stupid." This type of argument just dosn't hold.

The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that fascism appeals to the uneducated and unintelligent, but it would be a mistake to reduce it to a function of intellect, or an "ideology of the stupid". There's plenty of dangerous, sincere fascists who are quite intelligent in all useful meanings of the word.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Also maybe I have the barest semblance of standards but it’s essentially a requirement to be at least a little fucking stupid in order to support right-wing policies.

Hypothetically, I think it's possible for a person to support right-wing policies (in a nutshell: policies that enforce social hierarchies) without being even a little fucking stupid, if (a) they actually are at the top of said hierarchy (in actual reality, not their own delusion), and (b) they're an absolute psychopath.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Yea I meant to add that on at the end and just didn’t.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 week ago

they also try very hard to make sure people remain and become uneducated, hence why schools suck even worse in places that have been right wing for a long time

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 15 points 1 week ago

Have you ever argued with a tired, hangry toddler? There's no getting through to them, it's all impulse and feeling, lashing out at everyone even if you're trying to help them. I don't know why that just came to my mind...

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's a study that says conservatives are less intelligent over all, I'll try to find it.

[–] unabart@sh.itjust.works 62 points 1 week ago (1 children)

To be clear, he should be jailed for that massacre of the language alone. There's probably a lot of other charges that would stick as well.

[–] Draegur@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 week ago

Yeah it's free speech not free "incoherent screeching"

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That dude has used biker meth more often than deodorant.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What's the difference between biker meth and regular meth?

[–] AugustWest@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

“Biker meth” is most if not all meth now. It uses phenyl-2-propanone as the starting point and produces a racemic mixture of dextromethamphetamine and levomethamphetamine.

Traditional clandestine meth production using ephedrine produces pure dextromethamphetamine.

d-methamphetamine is the euphoric feel good stuff. l-methamphetamine is the racing heart, more neurotoxic, nearly immediate psychosis stuff.

TL;DR - “Biker meth” is most meth now. It’s much worse for you and less enjoyable.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Good to know. I'll keep that in mind.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 5 points 1 week ago

When you're... comparison shopping for meth sources? 😂

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fun fact: This is explained in Breaking Bad. ... not the chemical breakdown (IIRC, so thanks for that!) but the difference in production.

Wonder if it made any impact on the popularity or still just tighter controls on ephedrine.

[–] AugustWest@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Just tighter controls on ephedrine and pseudoephedrine. Any dumbass can make it in the bathroom easily with homemade lab equipment using ephedrine, so a lot of law and law enforcement crackdowns have centered on that.

I haven’t seen the show in a long time and never finished it, but from what I remember, later in the show they ditch both methods and move on to methylamine. Going that route would also allow production of isolated d-methamphetamine.

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

But longer lasting so you're getting more bang for your buck! Plus there's all the neat organ damage.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Based on my extensive knowledge of watching Breaking Bad, I'd say the answer is purity.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Nah, Walt's blue meth was because he used the "biker meth" way. Assumedly, his was pure enough to still be good meth.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 week ago

It's like they had caps lock on, and only when they tried to capitalize America did they realize it.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Comma splices and 'outher'? Definitely bigot. These people pluralize 'email' with an S, despite it being a mass noun. They're sick.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

You really think it’s correct to say “I sent three email today”???!

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A lot of them hate Trump this time around though.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Uh what? Also trump cannot run again if any rules are respected

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I mean, it's VERY clear by now that rules are not respected. By Drumpf or republicans.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I convinced some of them under an alt to vote for Joe Biden and Kamala because it would kick off race war.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, that clearly worked.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Well they did vote for them.

[–] msprout@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I always thought it was wild that the Klan is so vehemently against Jews, yet, they worship Christ, who was raised Jewish himself.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

One of the Christian Identity white supremacists has this awful podcast, and he has episodes titled "Why Jesus is not a Jew", and "Hitler was a Christian"

Hitler was definitely a Christian

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Most literate conservative. There are still some sane Americans here... (please help)

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Sending thoughts and prayers your way.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 1 week ago

*dueling banjos plays*

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Those dang drug dellers! Slinging dupe to our chillins! Trying to get my to smoke wood coming out of the grocery store! I'm just trying to by some monistat cream for the missus so her nethers stop itching.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Nethers ahahaha.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 4 points 1 week ago
[–] VirgilMastercard@reddthat.com 4 points 1 week ago

DRUG DELLER

Not J jail! The humanity!

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 week ago

I like people who can't spell. This guy seems legit. /s

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