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[–] squirrelwithnut@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

I would totally buy one of these if they were sold in the US. Sadly, last time I checked the newest phone wasn't sold here. So I doubt this one will be.

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 14 points 1 day ago (5 children)

You can get them in the U.S. with /e/OS through Murena, but they are $900 :(

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[–] Panties@lemmy.ca 195 points 1 day ago (99 children)

No earphone jack again. That's a bit sad. Even though I mainly use BLT earbuds, I still sometimes wish I could use my wired headphones. It's just a small inconvenience

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[–] FG_3479@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (6 children)

I love the idea but the price is too high for the chip given that this is designed to be a longevity phone. A chip like the 7s Gen 3 would make the phone sluggish after a couple of years with how unoptimised todays apps are.

The Gorilla Glass 7i and IP55 water resistance are also concerning given that budget Samsung, Xiaomi, etc phones beat this.

However having components of the phone being easily replacable is a great thing.

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[–] icelimit@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago

I'd jump immediately if it had a stylus.

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If they are all about swappable parts, and being able to upgrade your phone how you want ... Shouldn't this just be a module upgrade... Of the main part? Maybe I don't understand it ... At the very least the old parts should work with the new system right? Unless something major has changed.

[–] ayane@lemmy.vg 31 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Exactly. Framework does it correctly; fairphone does not.

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not putting in a 3.5mm jack says enough. They sell Bluetooth earbuds I wouldn't call that "fair". It leads to more landfill. Phones with 3.5mm jacks also have BT, and don't start about USBC singles, that's more to buy and more landfill when they inevitable break.

[–] ayane@lemmy.vg 15 points 1 day ago

I hear you! Though I don't mind the lack of a 3.5 mm jack¹, it is still an anti-feature, and I fully agree that the TWS style of in-ears are antithetical to the repairability ethos. It's especially bad when they sell one themselves.

Until Linux phones reliably support 5G communications with major carriers (this is a kernel driver issue for modems), I'm going to run with my current phone until it crumbles... Or at least until someone comes out with an actual modular phone where the mainboard can just be swapped as with desktops and Framework laptops.

¹I use a very high quality "dongle" DAC (Moonriver 2) and it gives me a cleaner, lower impedance, higher power output than any phone's on-board audio can. If I'm going to be using wired headphones, might as well go all the way.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I hope my phone lasts until we get a framework phone.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Might be more challenging.

Laptop, its simple, if wifi and bluetooth works, its gonna work around the entire world (it's all standardized).

Phones? I mean the main functions of a phone is phone calls and data use. Every country has different bands, and some carriers/countries have IMEI whitelisting.

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[–] MystValkyrie@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (4 children)

Fairphone has been a really disappointing experiment in so-called sustainable tech over the years. They keep making new phones instead of continuing to support the old ones, which might be greenwashing. (Whereas if you got a legacy Framework 13, it's still user-repairable and upgradable.) If they wanted to make a non-upgradable device, maybe it would have been wise to make it high-end to futureproof to work until 4G gets phased out. Fairphone still is not making their products available in the U.S., and Murena is a borderline scam company and I am genuinely shocked Fairphone works with them.

And I've heard their logic with the headphone jack, but I do think AUX is the lesser of two evils as removing it will just lead to more e-waste with broken bluetooth headphones that rarely last as long as good wired ones. Fairphone's own bluetooth accessories have gotten negative reviews for their lower build quality, so Fairbuds are likely not the solution to the headphone jack problem.

For the simple fact that non-Europeans can buy them directly off the website, I would sooner recommend feature phones from Sunbeam as it also has user-replaceable batteries and you can send it in for repairs. Or just any phone used.

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[–] phantomwise@lemmy.ml 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (66 children)

Why does The Fairphone (Gen. 6) not have an audio jack?

After some of the criticism that we received about removing the headphone jack from Fairphone 4, we did consider bringing it back for The Fairphone (Gen. 6). However, we realized it would be at the expense of increasing the phone’s dimensions. We also looked into the consumer data and Fairphone 4’s weight and thickness were more of an issue than the lack of a minijack, so we decided to keep the same approach, although it was a difficult decision. We didn’t want to invest in OLED technology for the display and then not have improved the phone’s dimensions and weight. But just like with Fairphone 4 and Fairphone 5, we will still offer an adapter, which has had overall positive user reviews.

"We heard the criticism but decided that no, you would still need an adapter to use headphones, plus a USB-C hub to be able to charge the damn thing while listening to music or watching videos"

Funny how that's the same excuses that we get for modern laptops terrible design. "We HAVE to make it thinner so there's no space! You wouldn't want a laptop that's not complete shit if it meant it'd also be less thin and breakable, now would you?"

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[–] 1234@lemmy.world -2 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

It is an android, which is moving towards an ai for everything trajectory which might be a privacy nightmare, I wonder if the next step of the fairphone journey is to break from android

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[–] anzo@programming.dev 67 points 1 day ago (17 children)

There's a deGoogled version too!!

I would prefer GrapheneOS (If I can live with the irony of getting a Pixel phone just to deGoogle it...). Sandboxing there is way better. But you lose the Repairability.. Gotta check and compare the new EU metrics too.

They are just two different devices.

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