The neoliberal subreddit is a true wellspring of comedy. Nowhere else on the Internet do you see such an awkward coexistence between incredulous radlibs and actual genuine fascists.

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[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 43 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I remember a post on the neoliberal subreddit where they counter-posted against republicans celebrating their 'peace' candidate by posting a pic of a muscular chad with words including stuff about 'yeah we'll do wars', and 'yeah we fund the CIA and USAID'

I'd say it was FBI/CIA propaganda but honestly they ARE contrarian to such a stupid degree

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 24 points 3 weeks ago

It's so stupid that they think their contrarianism is edgy or "based" when it's literally the most mainstream, head empty positions possible. Yeah dude, the people in power are smarter than us and they know better! They know better than me!

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I’d say it was FBI/CIA propaganda but honestly they ARE contrarian to such a stupid degree

I don't think they are even contrairian. The dem base is split between radlibs and neolibs, and each camp does have some internal coherence, but both camps have the complete opposite view from each other (pro-war vs anti-war, pro-market vs anti-markets, pro-state vs anti-state).

Depending on what part of the base you are talking to, that meme might be entirely ironic or unironic.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 21 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It's so interesting how these neolib types jive with the radlib types and it's always just unclear how ironic they all are being. It's like if we allowed Nazis to post on Hexbear and Lemmygrad but they have to be ironic, then we'd also post the same things alongside them but also under the veil of irony. Like, dude, you realize you're endorsing views that are (at least supposedly) diametrically opposed to your own, right? How do "progressive" radlibs find themselves in spaces like NCD where they're making light of genocide, ironically, while the dude next to them is doing it straight faced?

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

How do "progressive" radlibs find themselves in spaces like NCD where they're making light of genocide, ironically, while the dude next to them is doing it straight faced?

I think it’s the “more perfect union” mindset. Radlibs might desire some progressive/left outcomes, but they see it as part of this reform narrative where the reactionary elements of the American project keep falling off over time (emancipation, women’s suffrage, end of Jim Crow, gay marriage, etc). So imperialism and genocide can be treated lightheartedly because they see it as a temporary embarrassment that progress and reform will eventually eradicate. Whereas the neolibs are lighthearted about it because they fundamentally don’t see it as a problem.

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 3 weeks ago

How do “progressive” radlibs find themselves in spaces like NCD where they’re making light of genocide, ironically, while the dude next to them is doing it straight faced?

I don't know honestly. I remember that pro-war libs basically radicalised me out of liberalism. Watching young radlibs stand side by side with well off neolibs is genuinely disheartening. The elderly libs are burning away the younger libs' futures as if they were firewood.

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

It's all about having common enemies, imo, plus similar cultural signifiers. They're both in the "blue tribe" and whatever views someone might have about "political" things like war, it's just a difference of opinion.

What I mean by "political" is that most people have a certain set of values that they'll say, "shouldn't even be political," and you can generally tell almost everything about a person's politics by what they put in that category. The neolibs and radlibs place things like LGBT rights in that category, but slaughtering a bunch of foreigners, well, that's a complicated foreign policy debate where reasonable people can disagree. Plus, I mean, they're radlibs, so they're probably gonna see eye-to-eye with neolibs on Ukraine, for example.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 43 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

The neoliberal subreddit is a true wellspring of comedy.

there's a specific subreddit?! i thought it was all neoliberal.

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 42 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Oh no, the neoliberal subreddit is a special layer of hell. Many of the other subs at least pretend to have shame, or have to be astroturfed into being lib-fash. The neolib sub is the authentic product of which the other subs are mere counterfeits.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

sounds awful; almost every day i see another reason to be glad that i don't use reddit anymore.

[–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Before I stopped using Reddit I got perma banned from there for asking if their rule against supporting violence and oppressive regimes meant they didn't support the U.S.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

i tried to get banned during the blackout protests by intentionally breaking rules because i didn't believe that i could stay away at the time, but they wouldn't ban me; go figure.

the only place that's banned me on social media is the star trek lemmy instance and even then only to their most active communities; i wish i could understand why/how i have this ability so i can wield it to my benefit. lol

[–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I had acquired a stalker that was very upset I would tell people that Vaush had threatened to SA a woman and looked at CP, so they kept reporting me for saying that when the revolution comes everyone with a K-On profile pic gets the wall because there's a 99% chance they're neo nazis. After the second temp ban I figured it was time to go.

[–] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Reddit stalkers are so weird, ages ago I had some guy from the Joe Rogan subreddit who would follow me around replying to my posts on hobby subreddits about how I'm a Communist and no one would give a shit lmao

[–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

This guy trawled through literally years of my posts and comments trying to find things to take out of context and made a master list of links, I assume to teach me a lesson about how his wholesome debate bro streamer was being unfairly maligned and would post it whenever I commented on something.

[–] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Very strange

[–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

It's the most common thing the Vaushites trot out, that you're just taking the blatant racism and sexism out of context and it's all steeped in 5 layers of irony and you need to watch a 1,000 hours of his stream before you really get him like they do.

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago

There's two main kinds of liberals.

The first, who are just clueless moralists and never think of politics, only in vibes... and what's best for their wallet (the main enemy, taxes and people who don't work according to their standards of work ethics.)

The second one, is aware of how capital works and what it leads to. They support it. With the necessary ruthlessness.

r/neoliberal is the personal subreddit of a Victorian era capitalist, ready to participate in the partition of Africa. Not lassiez-Faire like the libertarians or other chuds. Except if that faction is strong and the winds are blowing favorably. Otherwise, any form of capital will do, as long as it flows faster.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 weeks ago

They also can't understand why anyone would think that's bad

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

/r/neoliberal was basically the vat grown nemisis of /r/chapotraphouse back in the day.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We were Stalin, /r/latestagecapitalism was Trotsky, /r/PresidentialRaceMemes was Nasser, /r/WayOfTheBern was Kim Il Sung, /r/neoliberal was Churchill, /r/TheDonald was... well whatever a decoy that hides the real Hitler would be, but the important thing is that Spez is Hitler.

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What was srs cos that's when i stopped using Reddit

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Lenin, of course. Or maybe Blanqui?

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

Lenin studied srs, which was based on maoist-cth-latestagecapitalistism. The linear progeas of time proves this

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago

i didn't know what chapotraphouse was back when it was a thing on reddit and i would have probably left a lot sooner if i had.

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago

astronaut-1 Wait, it's all neoliberal?

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 weeks ago

we're not actually like Thatcher we're just ironically neoliberals.... Because we don't want to admit how much we like Thatcher

Them anytime I questioned how they could be a neoliberal. Especially after they being high and mighty about something incredibly terrible a neoliberal had done

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 33 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

i-love-not-thinking

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 3 weeks ago

The neolibs have implemented an apartheid system where vibes are first class citizens and logics are second class citizens.

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 27 points 3 weeks ago

awkward coexistence between incredulous radlibs and actual genuine fascists

If there are 9 fascists sitting at a dinner table with 2 radlibs who do not denounce them, there are 11 fascists in total.

[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 25 points 3 weeks ago

The Colorado governor was a poster in that subreddit. Such a gross place

[–] sallyXDeng@hexbear.net 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I honestly hate when, neoliberals specifically, use the pride flag

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago

yea