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[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 4 points 53 minutes ago

Itt: cognitive disonannce.

The study isn't bs. Lemmy users just won't accept that they don't even come close to representing the average individual.

[–] oppy1984@lemm.ee 42 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

41 year old male, no kids, no wife or girlfriend, been work from home for 5 years now. I've never been happier and more productive.

I get my sense of community from my friends not my coworkers. This study is B.S.

[–] MashedTech@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

Yeah, you gotta have friends that are close by and you can get out with or they can come over. If you don't... Sometimes it feels lonely. But to be honest, you kinda get used to it.

[–] ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You know there are always outliers because research often looks at populations in general and not the exact experience of a specific person. Unless it’s a case study but that’s different.

Either way that’s a really good thing for you, the modern world makes it difficult to make and keep close to friends.

[–] oppy1984@lemm.ee 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

True, and I was drawing on anecdotal evidence that I didn't elaborate on in my original comment. While I know there are people who do not do well or enjoy work from home, I have yet to meet those people, all my coworkers and friend group are loving work from home.

So a more accurate statement would have been, based on my personal experience along with with coworkers and my friend circle this study is B.S.

[–] wellheh@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 hour ago

Tbf there's definitely some confirmation bias in there because a person who didn't enjoy being remote probably wouldn't seek that type of job

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 19 points 10 hours ago

Being childfree is its own reward.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 35 points 11 hours ago

As a childless man, they will have to pry my work from home out of my cold, lots of free time having hands.

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 27 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

No we don't. Work is work, not fucking community.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 15 points 10 hours ago

I like my coworkers. They're cool. I just went to acro yoga with one, and go bouldering with another. We show up, talk shit, and get the job done - sometimes it's a good time. Sometimes we get our asses kicked. But that builds camradrie, too.

I will say, this is blue collar stuff. When I worked as a software dev, I definitely didn't care about spending much time with my coworkers.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I guess it's a poor choice of words but there's definite value in workplace camaraderie. Don't let your jadedness fuel the bosses' union busting.

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Unions aren't community.

They're a necessary defence mechanism against capitalism.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 10 hours ago

Humour is a defence mechanism. Altruism is a defence mechanism. And with those two, camaraderie is a given.

Also it would be a sorry state of affairs if workers under capitalism had their defence mechanisms, but not canalisation workers shovelling literal shit.

[–] Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yes I do, speak for yourself.

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[–] last_philosopher@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

For me WFH has helped me have a community. The office was never a real community, and the fact that we all worked together got in the way of being actual friends. Instead with the added time from WFH I was able to prioritize my social life and go to more events and meet people I actually have stuff in common with. Additionally my in-office job forced me to live in a dead suburb, WFH allowed me to move to a city with a lot more social opportunities.

Of course probably not everyone prioritized that. The office might be good for some people, but for people like me who don't necessarily socialize at the office very easily WFH is much better for community.

[–] FourWaveforms@lemm.ee 24 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I'm a childless man and FUCK that, the office isn't my social scene. I don't care to drive in there just to talk to the same people in person. ZERO point in doing that. We have meetings electronically and that's more than enough.

[–] npcknapsack@lemmy.ca 9 points 11 hours ago

You mean, you, a presumably young man, don't come to the office to chat with your 50 year old office mom, or your CEOs and managers, or your coworkers whose interests only overlap yours so far as employment opportunities? How bizarre!

[–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 2 points 11 hours ago

They're all jerks anyways

Mmmm I am a childless man, and I live by myself, and I am 100% cool with that, and feel fine. But to be fair, I’ve got a pretty good circle of friends, and a really strong core friend group.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 hours ago

Why can't your workers be your workers, your family be your family, your friends be your friends?

[–] ThatKomputerKat@lemmy.world 15 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

As a childless man, fuck no I don’t.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I've been working from home with my older family members since COVID started and I've been pretty happy since it's always been my goal. I've also had a knee injury for the past 3 weeks, and it's potentially prevented me from making it worse, and allowed me to continue working. I've almost been working remotely for the majority of my career, which is kind of cool to think about. I like working from home, but I understand not everyone likes it.

Honestly, I'd probably sooner retire from tech and work something else if I was forced to go back into an office with no possibility of getting a remote job.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 27 points 19 hours ago

This childless man loves his peace, quiet, and alone time.

But maybe I don't qualify as I have dogs, friends, and kickass neighbors.

[–] cholesterol@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Would they equally write 'mothers' vs. 'childless women' in another article about remote work, I wonder.

[–] npcknapsack@lemmy.ca 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

It'd be married and single women, most likely. (Edit: they prefer to classify us by our relationships with men.)

[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 84 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I’m a childless man and I don’t miss the sense of community one bit.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago

I’m a dad and I do. Our anecdotal stories have been registered!

[–] Tehbaz@lemmy.wtf 8 points 18 hours ago

Same here, much prefer the peace and quiet as well as avoiding the complication & stress of maintaining a personal relationship that may or may not last. As long as I have my dog with me I'm never lonely.

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[–] scytale@lemmy.zip 60 points 1 day ago

Another person already said it, but the issue is the lack of third spaces. You don’t need to physically go to an office to get a sense of community. Working remotely makes it easier to get a sense of community if there are third spaces because you’re not stuck in a building for 8 hours. If your only source of community is your workplace, then you have other problems.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My oldest has no children and works fully remote.

When the pandemic started, his company decided to have everyone work from home. They very quickly discovered that they were just as productive, and the owner decided it made sense to dump their office space.

A group of employees decided to go on vacation together, while still working. Since they are all remote, they didn't actually have to work from home. They got an Airbnb with good Internet, worked during the day, and saw the sites and had fun together after work.

If you're remote and you miss that sense of community, reach out to your coworkers and ask them if they want to hang out after work. It's possible they don't and you'll be disappointed. It's also possible that they feel the same way but didn't know they could do something about it.

Either you'll be the hero that saved everyone from their solitary existence, or you'll have to accept that they don't want to hang out with you.

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[–] RiceMunk@sopuli.xyz 169 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Childless man here, I work mostly remotely.

I don't miss any sense of community.

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 3 points 14 hours ago

Same. I’ve always hated office culture and don’t miss it one bit.

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 29 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Well then call me the outlier, cause I'm a childless man who has been happily working remote since before covid. I'd rather be jobless than go back to office work. I have a small group of non-work friends that I enjoy spending time with, and back when I did office work the majority of my friends were not work friends.

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