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submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by vga@sopuli.xyz to c/technology@lemmy.world
 

Here's Matrix CEOs answer to this article: https://lobste.rs/c/jekh0n -- according to him the article is absurd amounts of FUD

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[–] x00z@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 hours ago

With a bit of green pesto and chianti.

[–] Fontasia@feddit.nl 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I find it really frustrating that supporters of Open Protocols appear to live in cognitive dissonance of both wanting to be "used by everyone" and "to be a small gated community".

You can't keep money out forever and with that does come influence which I know. But eventually wouldn't you like to talk to your mother on a protocol you trust, with a client she understands?

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah... well, it seems to me that Matrix is potentially there. I mean I could install Element X on my parents' phones, set it up with some account and be done with it. It would be as good as signal and whatsapp from an UX perspective. And I could then chat with them with any of the existing dozens of Matrix clients.

The worst problem, if you can call it that, currently is that Signal is good enough.

All in all, I think reading through all these messages makes me feel like doubling down on Matrix. It is currently a very passable IRC, Signal and Slack replacement and the only remaining problem is that those things already exist.

(Discord doesn't need replacing, just destroying)

[–] Jaberw0cky@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Is anyone else using Delta chat as an alternative? I can’t fault their idea of basing their chat app on the well established email system.

[–] JadedBlueEyes@programming.dev 1 points 47 minutes ago

Delta chat is hilariously slow. It's less of an instant messenger and moreover next business day messenger. That's ignoring the problems you'll have running it on your own infrastructure.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Here's Matrix CEOs answer to this article: https://lobste.rs/c/jekh0n -- good discussion in that thread in general

[–] kayky@thelemmy.club 7 points 1 day ago

That's like saying POP3 is cooked.

[–] Lazycog@sopuli.xyz 71 points 2 days ago (32 children)

SimpleX Chat – Many suggested this and I will explicitly recommend against it due to the founder's positions on various topics. This includes being anti-vaxx, believing COVID-19 was a hoax, trans- and homophobia, climate denial; In the SimpleX Groupchat he's also been seen basically bootlicking trump a couple times, but I've lost receipts to that.

I did not know this. I've seen people recommend SimpleX on lemmy too, but probably they didn't know.

[–] Dreaming_Novaling@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 day ago

So happy the article linked to the Fediverse post, immediately liked and boosted it.

Never used SimpleX much really but will be immediately uninstalling it. Saw the guy's tweets, he's fucking insane, and retweets RFK Jr 🤢. Will do my best to inform others.

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

This should be an awareness post on some tech communities

[–] astute@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago

Me neither, this is actually disgusting, immediately uninstalled, a founder that has these views most likely shouldn’t be trusted with your data, anyway.

Thank you so, so, so, so much for saying this!

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[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

VC funding destroys everything it touches.

[–] kayky@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 day ago

It's fine if matrix.org goes down the shitter.

The protocol is what's important.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This article is nonsense. The Foundation was always a front for New Vector and their board is largely made up by New Vector employees. So of course they knew what was going on.

New Vector simply decided that the strategy to make Matrix appear as an open standard was against their business interests and thus left the foundation to fend for itself with obvious consequences.

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[–] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 23 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I think it’d help them a lot to disable new signups on the m.org home server for a while and direct people to some of the other popular options, they spend too much on their own example server imo

[–] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Personally have been hosting my own server for me and friends. Cheaper and easier than I expected it to be 🤠

[–] yardratianSoma@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (4 children)

cheap and easy? I tried running it myself and ran into several hurdles, and gave up. How did you host it? VPS? Docker? Bare-metal?

[–] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 4 points 17 hours ago

cheaper and easier than I expected, at least. wouldn't want to say anyone can do it, you'd need some familiarity with the command line and dns but I'm lucky enough to have some experience with them. either way, this is the guide I followed, and I just pointed it at a hetzner vps https://github.com/spantaleev/matrix-docker-ansible-deploy/blob/master/docs/quick-start.md

[–] msage@programming.dev 1 points 23 hours ago

I installed it with pip in 2017 without issues

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