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Las Vegas police warn "No Kings" protest violence will not be tolerated (www.cbsnews.com)

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[–] jared@mander.xyz 225 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Protestors should warn the police that violence will not be tolerated!

[+] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My comment was removed for "advocating violence", so I'll try to make myself clear:

First of all, I did not intend to advocate violence.

I was trying to advocate that people be vocal about the fact that there is a certain amount of violent suppression they will tolerate before they turn to violent resistance.

This isn't about condoning violence. It's about loudly warning the authorities about what often happens when protesters are suppressed using unwarranted force.

Furthermore, it's about recognising that everyone has a right to self defence, and making the authorities aware of that. If the police open fire on innocent civilians, they have a right to fight back. If the police beat a peaceful protester, they have a right to fight back. If unidentified people attempt to illegally arrest a protester, they have a right to fight back. The authorities have said things that make it appear as if they haven't recognised this, and I'm advocating that they be made aware of it.

This means:

Loudly inform the authorities of your right to assemble and express yourself.
Loudly inform the authorities of your right to defend yourself using force if those rights are infringed upon.
Use violence only as an absolutely last resort.

[–] Ragnor@feddit.dk -5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The issue is just that if people start burning things or breaking into stores or things like that, then the police has to dissolve the aggregation because the complicit people cannot be identified on short notice. That requires an investigation, which takes time.

If bad things happen then it would be best if people actually helped stop the vandalism or whatever could happen. It sucks for those who don't participate in the lawless behavior, but what is the police supposed to do? Let people destroy innocent people's property?

I totally support the protests, but people have to realize that when things take a wrong turn then the police have limited options. A lot of damage can be done in a very short amount of time when a gathering turns into a mob, so things have to be stopped.

It totally sucks that vandals often destroy it for the peaceful protesters, but what other solutions do you suggest to the police's dilemma?

[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Have you ever actually been to a protest? Cops absolutely go after vandals, but going after vandals NEVER means opening fire on a square of people who are literally sitting down and chanting.

This has happened. Numerous times. Don't defend the fascists who simply get a hard on for attacking civilians.

[–] Ragnor@feddit.dk -5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The vandals hide among the rest, so the police has to disband everyone to stop things from reoccurring. When people don't disperse when told to do so, or fight against the police when they try to make them comply, then things escalate. The police doesn't have other options, sadly.

People have to realize that the police don't do things if everyone follows the rules. They aren't pigs or fascists, but people like the rest of us. The narrative on this site has gone completely haywire.

There are some policemen who do wrong stuff. I don't know how many police officers are in the US, but I would be surprised if it is less than 200k. Take the stories you have heard and divide that number by 200,000, and consider the fact that they are put in rough positions a lot more often than you and I, and you should arrive at the result that they aren't any worse than the rest of us.

The dehumanizing of the cops here on Lemmy is rampant, and it isn't fair to the vast majority of cops who don't do the bad stuff.

[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 0 points 10 months ago

Ever heard of "1 bad apple spoils the bunch"? In this case one good apple either dies, or spoils. There's literally no such thing as a good cop.

Any cop you think is good? Go put them in riot gear, give them some grenade launchers, and then give them a crowd of different colored people. Id bet big money that good cop would either do what the rest of the cops around them do, (fuck up a crowd) or they would immediately quit/help the defenseless civilians who are being assaulted with tear gas and rubber bullets.

[–] jimmux@programming.dev 105 points 10 months ago

My brother in Christ, you are the violence that will not be tolerated.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 90 points 10 months ago

Then they should go home

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 61 points 10 months ago

You know what? Violence brought on by police won't be tolerated by us.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 50 points 10 months ago

Ok then you shouldn't commit any?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 41 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

They say that but only apply it to the protestors, not the bastards in uniform and riot gear that shoot and beat people unprovoked. It's always tolerated if the violence is being handed out by the state.

[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 9 points 10 months ago

The greatest rule of violence is its only violence if it flows up hill. 9/11 violence, the starving of civilians through embargo's? Magically not violence

[–] caboose2006@lemm.ee 38 points 10 months ago

Great, then the cops should stay home

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 10 months ago

Ah so does that mean the fascist pigs will fuck off?

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

Don't start none

won't be none

[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

Thank goodness we won't have to worry about police brutality at this one!

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Does this mean that the police will not be using violence? :)

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

No, just that it will be their excuse to escalate.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 16 points 10 months ago

Unless they instigate it, of course

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 10 months ago

Remember there are more people then police

[–] meangreenbeans@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Oh good. I was worried the police were going to use force 😮‍💨

[–] ScrambledEggs@lazysoci.al 11 points 10 months ago

Good. So the cops should be on their best behavior.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"If we see any violence we will kick the living shit out of you!".

[–] D_C@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago

"And if we don't see any violence we will kick the shit out of you!"

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

There are more of you than them. And thankfully you can easily arm and defend yourself.

[–] martin4598@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fat police

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

If I have to run from the cops, I hope it's one of these specimens that is chasing me. I'm pretty sure I can run faster and farther before these guys have to stop and throw up.

[–] Zomg@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I hear open carry is a good way to make cops respect you.

Mostly /s