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submitted 6 months ago by CARCOSA@hexbear.net to c/hexbear@hexbear.net
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Hello users of Hexbear, there have been many changes and some drama the past few months.

The recent changes we've been making have been an attempt to create a more safe and welcoming environment for many demographics that have been overlooked in the past.

For any of our comrades that have been unintentionally hurt in this process, we apologise and hope to find a solution that accommodates as many people as possible while still meeting the needs of the marginalised groups who need a space like this the most.

The intent of this post is to provide a space for all users to air grievances with regard to the site. As well as provide suggestions for specific things that could be changed to address your grievance. Comments insulting the mod team or those without a specific means to address your problem may be removed. No commenter will be sitebanned, unless it clearly breaks the code of conduct.

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[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 1 points 6 months ago

I really think the problems with the past couple of drama waves can be boiled down to "don't govern the site by surprise." Please, just TALK to us before you make big, sweeping changes.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 1 points 6 months ago

I just want more empathy.

Reading through this thread I see a lot of people with a lot of problems in their lives who use this site at least in part as an emotional safety blanket, who really need it to stay that way.

What this functionally means is that drama is kept to a minimum, and that behaviour where some people take a situation from 0-100 instead of talking, assuming good faith and coming to understanding is discouraged or actively fought as it's a corrosive behaviour that I do not think has ever led to anything good on this site ever.

Lastly I've already mentioned, but vibes-based moderation must be avoided such that a moderation action can be described to neurodiverse members of the site in an explicitly understandable and non-vague way so that person can actionably change that behaviour.

[–] DisabledAceSocialist@hexbear.net 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't think this is what you're asking, but the site changes font almost every time I log in. Sometimes it's a thicker font than usual and when that happens the site doesn't seem to work properly, for instance generally can't access my messages when that happens. There doesn't seem to be any particular rhyme or reason as to when this happens but it happens frequently.

[–] makotech222@hexbear.net 1 points 6 months ago

what browser are you using? i'm guessing the SSR is sending you the site properly, but when you run the local version of the lemmy app, it crashes. Try to use firefox or chrome first (updated), and also try clearing your cache

[–] dustbunnies@hexbear.net 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

perhaps unpopular opinion I'd like to discuss:

if frauddogg had been moderated like autismdragon instead of celebrated for null's behavior, void might not have felt the need to delete null's account when found out to be a former troop

this is not conspiracist, "mod-cabal" bullshit – it is undeniable that some people are moderated differently than the vast majority of users. I would prefer to not call out more examples – I'm not interested in a struggle session or interpersonal drama – but I have been poking around and saving them up since the TC69 incident, because "no investigation, no right to speak," and I've seen how @REgon@hexbear.net et al have been treated for trying to discuss this difference without having a fucking catalog of evidence.

if frauddogg had been required to treat other hexbears with the good faith etc called for in the Code of Conduct, would void have felt compelled to delete null's account when the troop thing came up? would it have even come up at all in that conversation, if void hadn't been consistently behaving belligerently towards others, including other em_poc users?

🤷

effects on me personally, cw: self-harmhonestly, seeing void's behavior get celebrated sent me on a mental health decline. I thought so highly of you all, and this is what counts as "most comradely" etc to you? I don't get it, which makes me feel like either there is something deeply wrong with me, or that you are not the kind of people you present yourself to be and it would be safer to distance myself from you.

I've been working on that for the last couple weeks. 🤷 it is very lonely, but at least I'm not contemplating self-harm because my not understanding something makes me a fragile cracker Becky worthy of the wall. I have tried my best to be a good comrade here; I have tried to treat you all with an open heart, and though I am white and Amerikkkan and housed, I have never in my life been above 200% of the FPL, and I have repeatedly paid my own bills late to help people on /c/mutual_aid eat.

this place is deeply baffling, and if I could figure out somewhere else full of trans leftists where I could get news that isn't entirely drenched in American propaganda, I would have already deleted my account.

edit1: removed an archive link per admin/mod request

edit2: changed another archive link to screenshots per admin/mod request

[–] Hermes@hexbear.net 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

would void have felt compelled to delete null's account when the troop thing came up?

Users who justify being part of the U$ military should be mocked and banned. We don't let clean Wehrmacht people in here, and we shouldn't let them in either. If I had been able to see the comments before deletion I probably would have posted a pit barbara-pit at null.

[–] dustbunnies@hexbear.net 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I used to be a shithead. people can change.

edit: all joking aside – genuinely, if you don't believe people can change, then there is no hope for human society and we should all euthanize ourselves immediately to minimize destruction to the rest of the biosphere.

I would prefer to believe that it is worth trying to help people to change. I grew up deeply indoctrinated in evangelical bullshit and here I am, a mostly-anarchist commie-leaning bi poly lady with a trans son 🤷 change is possible

[–] Hermes@hexbear.net 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's not what I meant, I do believe people can change soviet-heart! However, people who are still harboring viewpoints that are in favor of imperialism should not be allowed on this site. If users like this do a lot of self crit and acknowledge their mistakes, I would not be apposed to them being here. However, users who actively believe that the U$ military is not a reactionary force, and that its soldiers should be treated with any level of respect should never be able to make it past account creation. This would be pretty easy to screen for with a question about the applicants views on American soldiers.

You and Ivysaur both mentioned that you would not have been welcome here at earlier points in your life, but you are now. Frauddogg is still in that earlier stage, and null have not rejected their indoctrination in favor of capital. If frauddogg was willing to change, I might accept them back in a few years, but I doubt that will happen.

[–] amberSuperMario@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 6 months ago

However, people who are still harboring viewpoints that are in favor of imperialism should not be allowed on this site. If users like this do a lot of self crit and acknowledge their mistakes, I would not be apposed to them being here. However, users who actively believe that the U$ military is not a reactionary force, and that its soldiers should be treated with any level of respect should never be able to make it past account creation.

This isn’t representative of frauddog at all though? Like maybe I’m misunderstanding something but it sounds like you are saying this is the kind of person frauddog is and that’s obviously untrue. Frauddog joined the military as a teenager, and now as an adult is very aggressively against imperialism and colonialism. It’s not like null is an active troop secretly infiltrating this place. I think null should have had more humility in void’s last interaction on this site, like obviously having been part of the us military is pretty fucking shameful even if you were ignorant at the time, but it’s really bothering me how people have been acting as though null was like, a secret fed who actually loves the us military or some shit. And it’s frustrating to me that this is how null went out, because null had been talking about wanting to delete for a while due to the frequent racism from white users on this site, but since it went down like this if feels like that racism, that continues to harm users here, is being ignored in favor of pointing out a gotcha about a user they didn’t like. Idk, I know my thoughts are disorganized here but hopefully I’m making sense.