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[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 15 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Normally this should be removed under the "We're not YPTB" rule, but as this is a new situation I'll allow this thread to act as a megathread. New posts about this will be removed, so post any new memes here.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Could somebody even explain what's going on?

Anti Commercial-AI license

[–] germandixdetector@sh.itjust.works 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The Germans are claiming the laws forces them to censor anti Israeli speech. You cannot say they are Nazis (apparently the Germans patented that) and you cannot call for the end of Israel as a state.

According to them, disolving a nation-state is the same as killing everybody. The goal is to imply that if it wasn't for Israel the genociders would be the genocidees. It's a form of denial. "It was self defense"

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 1 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

9 minutes old throwaway account posting a highly distorted version of the actual rules posted 🙄

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

The spark that set this whole thing off was literally a comparison to the nazis

More dishonest bullshit. The rules literally mention "exiStenReCht" or whatever.

Can I go there and say "Israel doesn't have the right to exist?". Please tell me coz I really want to

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 18 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

On one hand, I get .org's admins' reasoning, and don't disagree with the core of it - no one wants a fucking police visit to their house over a hobby project.

On the other hand, it's a strong reason for me to not use Feddit.org (separate from Feddit.uk) comms at all, regardless of the comm's individual position on the ongoing Palestinian genocide.

[–] Jews4Palestine@lemmy.today 14 points 20 hours ago

There's no law saying they can't ban the homophobic, genocide denying users they host.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net -5 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Have you even read the official feddit.org announcement? There is nothing in there that would prevent a serious discussion of the atrocities of the Israeli government. They simply ask to not call for ethnic clensing of an entire group of people or to relativise the holocaust. That is an extremely low bar (which should be common sense) and if that prevents you from participating in feddit.org comms that is really a you problem.

You are being dishonest. They ban call to disolve Israel as a political entity. Saying the Israeli state should be disolved is NOT a call for ethnic clainsing.

Your whole move is to blame the victims by saying if it wasn't for Israel the palestinians would genocide the jews.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 19 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It's broader than that - it also forbids comparisons of the Israeli government to Nazis. You may say that that's just an issue of tone that doesn't prevent serious discussion, and you aren't wrong - but I have no interest in getting tone policed on a fucking genocide either, regardless of German law.

Industrial scale is like, with train carts going to death camps for 4 years

[–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Nice to see that good meaning critics of israels war crimes are being judged by details instead of doing something more useful for your general movement. Surely it hurts you so much that you can't compare the idf to nazis but still can say how what israel's doing sucks and is a war crime

[–] germandixdetector@sh.itjust.works 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You are not good meaning if you argue for the continuation of a genocidal state

[–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Not wanting that already established people who have lived in Israel for their entire life ≠ wanting the continuation of what the idf does

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 hours ago

look at all the boers still in south africa. I mean they still have it too good, but this is what an end to an apartheid regime looks like. This but for israelis

[–] germandixdetector@sh.itjust.works 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

And wanting a state to end says nothing about the people. I'm from britanny. I want the French republic to stop existing so we can have self determination. I don't wanna genocide French people.

And regarding the Israelis, well, the ones who didn't participate in the genocide and didn't steal land can stay. There will be an agrary reform needed at some point of course but I'm sure they can rent an appartment in the nearest city.

[–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

And wanting a state to end says nothing about the people.

Then don't be surprised that people understand your ambiguous statements "the wrong way".

[–] germandixdetector@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You have a twisted mind if you think abolishing a state is the same as killing people. Your antisemitism is mostly projection isn't it?

[–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

lol 0/10 ragebait not even close

Well then why is the idea of disolving a genocidal state so triggerring for you?

Nobody died when east Germany ceased existing

What? Sentences baby do you speak it

Not wanting that already established people who have lived in Israel for their entire life do what?