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Hi guys I was thinking of installing either Calyx OS or Graphene OS on Pixel 7 I got from secondhand.

Meanwhile I was also wondering which one of these is most private but also best usable; Aurora Store or Google Play Mirror (Graphene OS) or Micro G?

Edit; Thanks for all info guys. I will take it into consideration and probably always first use F-Droid and web apps.

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[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 5 months ago

MicroG is not an alternative store, it's an alternative to Play Services.

[–] SilliusMaximus@mander.xyz 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Aurora Store is 3rd party client for Google Play Store while MicroG is open source implementation of Google libraries so they are not quite comparable.

I'd say MicroG with Aurora Store is most private you can be if you really need to use Google services. You can use Aurora Store with anonymous Google Account that they provide you and MicroG is only sharing necessary data with Google servers.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] SilliusMaximus@mander.xyz 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Data only needed for that specific service to function

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If the app declares it needs location even though it's not needed (say it's a text editor) will microg filter it out and/or provide fake data?

[–] SilliusMaximus@mander.xyz 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think it provides fake data but don't take my word.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago

Upvoted only because the comment got downvoted.

If you downvote a clearly stated opinion without clarifying why, e.g. a source clarifying that it is indeed no correct you are NOT helping the conversation.

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 5 months ago

GrapheneOS is far far better than CalyxOS in all categories

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago

https://github.com/Droid-ify/client

Can use any open-android store repository, including IzzyOnDroid and F-Droid. It's the only real choice.

[–] NewOldGuard@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

So aurora with micro g is more private in the sense that you’re not required to have a google account which would be used to track the apps you use etc. But sandboxed google play on GrapheneOS is significantly more secure. It requires fewer privileges than microG, operates in a much stricter sandbox, and performs checksum verifications on your downloads to ensure they are legitimate. Aurora is hypothetically vulnerable to man in the middle attacks since it doesn’t check the file’s hash

[–] PatriPetriPutri@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

What I can tell u (as a normie) is that a few weeks ago I bought a refurbished google pixel 7, installed Calyx OS (via the web browser installer) with MicroG and I've been using f-droid and Aurora Store (without a google account) since then and I haven't had any issues with any app, for example, the banking ones

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Fdroid. No, seriously, none of the above. fdroid is the only option here.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately a lot of apps are not on the FDroid stores which is why people, me included, rely on other stores.

I always look at FDroid first but sometimes (hopefully less and less) the only apps (typically commercial ones, e.g. banking) are elsewhere.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Use the websites whenever possible, instead of having to download another app, especially a commercial closed source one.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Indeed, honestly most apps should just be URLs.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

My bank website would not let me do everything that the app would let me do, so I switched banks.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

Nice, hopefully they are aware that former clients are moving away from them because they don't find their solution appropriate. I should do the same.

[–] upstroke4448@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Micro G is the worst option as it requires privileged access to your phone. This is the same major privacy issue with the regular Play Store. The only real difference is your shifting trust from Google to Micro G but, you shouldn't be trusting any third party with that type of access.

Aurora is a decent option as it allows you access to the Play Store without needing to actually install the Google Play Client.

I would say sandboxed Google Play is the best option. You get full access to the play store while still having the protections of a sandboxed app.

A lot of people will offer f-droid as an alternative but it also comes with some big issues. I'll quote privacy guides here

Due to their process of building apps, apps in the official F-Droid repository often fall behind on updates. F-Droid maintainers also reuse package IDs while signing apps with their own keys, which is not ideal as it gives the F-Droid team ultimate trust. Additionally, the requirements for an app to be included in the official F-Droid repo are less strict than other app stores like Google Play, meaning that F-Droid tends to host a lot more apps which are older, unmaintained, or otherwise no longer meet modern security standards.