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[–] ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago

Probably not on interstates. But for most roads it ought to be okay.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 105 points 1 day ago (16 children)

We citizens need to change the laws to highly tax those oversized vehicles. And we should make them commercial use only. Average people don't need huge trucks. K-cars are quite cool.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unfortunately taxes are kinda the reason why we see so many oversized trucks on the market and the reason you don't see any small trucks anymore. It's a result of manufacturers and lobbyists gamifying the EPA regulations that came out like 10-15 years ago.

Basically trucks under a certain weight have to meet a certain mpg standard otherwise they'd be taxed at a higher rate. However, there was a bypass for heavier "super-duty" trucks, so now most every truck being sold is classified as a super-duty which were originally meant to encompass "working" trucks meant to haul things like equipment.

It's really just another symptom of our government being a joke and the result of regulatory capture.

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

They're "light" trucks under CAFE standards as opposed to real trucks like semis and utility trucks. If they were smaller I think they would be lumped in with all the other normal passenger vehicles.

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[–] JordanZ@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There is a reason the guy in the article bought a 1990. The US has a 25 year rule for importing vehicles that weren’t sold here. These became legal in Utah a few years ago because they made off road side by sides legal as long as you made some modifications (horn, turn signals, mirrors, etc). There’s a particular weight range they need to fall between. They also have to hold the same insurance requirements and registration as any other road vehicle. I don’t think they can be used on any road above 45.

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[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 120 points 2 days ago (4 children)

why aren't they allowed now?

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 84 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (18 children)

us auto industry has reletively higher crash saftey requirements. part of the reason why everythings so damn big.

the kei trucks are basically rear end death traps if you hit US sized vehicles.

its why the only ones you can legally drive in some states are the ones that pass the 25 year car import law.

some areas explicitly ban it (e.g NYC i believe)

[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 181 points 2 days ago (8 children)

EU: Your truck is unsafe because it is unusually large and has razor sharp edges at head height.

US: Your truck is unsafe because it is too small to withstand a direct hit from one of our super safe giant axe head shaped cars.

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"The only way to protect yourself from a giant truck is to have your own giant truck"

Now where have I heard of this logic before? 🤔

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

With nuclear weapons.

Mutually Assured Destruction.

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

Well the larger trucks are exempt from the safety regulations is the reason it plays out that way. The spirit of the law I think is that they have a special use case and aren't supposed to be the default vehicle someone would be driving. But it's a loophole probably written in by the manufacturers themselves and that's just how it was billed to whatever legislator that signed it.

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[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

You're not allowed to drive those? Why not?

Edit: article touches on it. Low top speed and missing safety features. They aren't fit for highways but not all roads are highways, so outright bans are stupid.

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[–] nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't know about other country, but this truck rider in my country (Indonesia) are relatively safe.

People usually using this for everything, like portable shop, human transportion on the back (only legal on small village or remote area), etc.

I still remember riding one on the back for scout activities :)

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[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I live in Japan and drive a kei-car that's kinda like a van. 660cc engine (my motorbike is 400cc). I plan on probably eventually getting one of the trucks like in the thumbnail for my farm business. Ask me anything, I guess, if you have questions about them.

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[–] markstos@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I spotted one in Bloomington, Indiana recently. It parked next to a superbig truck and I'm sorry I didn't get that photo.

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