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Right-Wing Rage Against the Machine Fan Wishes We Could Go Back to the America That Existed When He Was Too Stupid to Understand the Lyrics (thehardtimes.net)

submitted 2 months ago by ZeroCool@lemmy.ca to c/theonion@midwest.social

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[–] RedWeasel@lemmy.world 55 points 2 months ago

I thought thehardtimes.net was satire. When did they start doing normal journalism?

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (5 children)

The last time RATM came to my city they charged $400+ for tickets and there were corporate sponsors for the concert.

[–] AZX3RIC@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

Fuck you, I won't pay what you tell me.

[–] middlemanSI@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's because TicketMaster or the like I imagine.. Was that for main standing area?

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ticket master or RATM, it makes no difference to me which of those two business partners are robbing us, they’re doing it together

[–] middlemanSI@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't think anyone can organize a major concert in US without these scalpers leeching on tickets. Is there a comparable example of a band where tickets are $100- ? This is the machine we all rage about..US sucks and it has been setting bad example to the rest of the world..

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can’t rage against a machine if you’ve willingly become part of it

[–] middlemanSI@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You lost me. I don't work for or have payed money to ticket master, if that's what you mean. Or maybe you mean generally, like going to work, concerts and so on.. Do you suggest everybody rolls over and dies? Are you calling for general strike, a revolution? Maybe elaborate.. I susspected 400+$ is a lie and did a quick search. Found this: https://www.alternativenation.net/rage-against-the-machine-unload-on-expensive-ticket-prices/ . It's about their reunion tour and that 90% of all tickets were $125. 10% of all tickets were charity tickets. It says if you payed 400$ then it was from a scalper. But you never attended their concert, did you?

[–] pwalshj@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I remember when they played on a trailer outside the NYSE. It was on MTV News and my brother rolled his eyes and casually said, "Rage Against the Machine but make sure the t-shirts are $25."

I started laughing and replied, "Does anyone think these guys don't own stock? They're on Epic for fuckssake. Ask Joe Strummer and The Clash how that worked out."

[–] elatedCatfish@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

“Rage for the Machine”

[+] b_tr3e@feddit.org -10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

RATM are the biggest fraud ever. Paid by SONY they have been commercializing "revolution" in the most disgusting, primitive and obvious ways. I remember the "made without computers, samplers[...]" note on their first record. Using technophobia and reactionary lies (the record was actually produce with excessive use of digital effects, the artwork mostly plagiarized and digitally layouted etc) to simulate rebellion and under contract by SONY from the first day on, I found them instantly repelling while everone else was euphoric about these wankers. Saw them playing live many years ago with Living Colour, Claws Boys Claws, Lenny Kravitz and many others. They weren't doing too well in direct comparison with a couple of authentic bands. It felt like if someone had switched from a serious concert to the "Muppet Show":

[–] egrets@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I remember the "made without computers, samplers[...]" note on their first record. Using technophobia and reactionary lies (the record was actually produce with excessive use of digital effects, the artwork mostly plagiarized and digitally layouted etc)

The liner notes read "no samples, keyboards, or synthesizers used in the making of this record". They used pedals and live feedback for distortion and effects, but did not use samples, keyboards, or synthesizers. At the time, as you'll know, synths were either embraced as an evolution of music production or derided as an erosion of real musical skill; RATM were in the former camp and their claim – as far as I know – was genuine. It doesn't matter where you stand or stood on the debate, it wasn't misleading or false. Your outrage is manufactured.

[–] b_tr3e@feddit.org -4 points 2 months ago

...sure. 'cos I don't know a digital pitch shifter when I hear and see one. Dream on, be a rebel buy more crap from major labels and don't forget: Every word the music industry tells you is the truth.

[–] gramie@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago

I have bad news for him. If he's the right wing RATM fan, he wasn't stupider before.