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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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The March 14 directive, signed by Attorney General Pam Bondi, uses an obscure 18th-century law — the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 — to give law enforcement nationwide the power to bypass basic constitutional protections.

According to the memo, agents can break into a home if getting a warrant is “impracticable,” and they don’t need a judge’s approval. Instead, immigration officers can sign their own administrative warrants. The bar for action is low — a “reasonable belief” that someone might be part of a Venezuelan gang is enough.

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[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 22 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Can't wait to see it clash when someone blows away an ICE agent in a castle state

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 5 points 44 minutes ago (2 children)

The person who would that, if they are somehow still alive, will be crucified by the state.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 6 minutes ago

No way. The courts would set them free.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 25 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

So... where is that outrage from preppers and gun enthusaists of the government barging into their homes?

Can you image if Biden, Obama, or even Bush did this?

There would literally be a massive armed mob outside the White House.

Turns out guns are useless in the face of propaganda, I guess.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 36 minutes ago

Oh, I literally just remembered my Mexican ex-roomie still gets his mail sent to my house

Well, everyone, the gun kept by the door for this exact reason is looking more and more like Im right to have it... Fuck

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 5 minutes ago

Welp, thats a death sentence for ICE agents. Cool.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 5 minutes ago

Fortunately the courts say otherwise

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

For some reason, I keep thinking that people used to booby trap their doors to discourage these types of activities. I vaguely think this was an IRA thing?

Not sure if it actually happened or it was just something from a movie, but I'm curious what would happen after a few ICE raids were turned into meat sauce by door mounted claymores.

[–] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

It's illegal. And they wouldn't change their policies.

They don't care about their agents.

[–] WhatSay@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 minutes ago

The reason it's illegal, is to protect firefighters and paramedics in case they need to enter a home.

[–] booly@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 hours ago

The law nerd in me is intrigued by the idea of a Third Amendment issue arising in the wild.

The citizen in me is horrified that they'd even fucking try.

[–] F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world 11 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Yeah what you need to do is 2nd amendment some of those house invaders under the castle doctrine of your State

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 3 points 42 minutes ago

I'm sure they will only apply castle doctrine to non members of the state. So if you shoot an ice officer breaking into your house, without a warrant. They will still be found guilty of murder, if they are somehow taken alive.

[–] Turturtley@aussie.zone 12 points 2 hours ago

Good to know that a Stetson University law degree isn’t worth the paper its printed on.

[–] iowagneiss@midwest.social 11 points 2 hours ago

By the time they enter, if they do, it will no longer be my home. It will belong to my estate. Fuck this admin. I hope we survive is and learn from it, at least until the next century when we will have forgotten about it again.

[–] Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 15 points 4 hours ago
[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 39 points 5 hours ago

A "memo". A fucking memo. No, this is a violation of the Constitution. Fuck your memo.

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 14 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

No they can't, at least legally.

I know they want to be like their idols in the Gestapo, but things quite there yet. Although it's getting very close.

[–] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago

There is no "legal" in America now. RESIST

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

Well, thats one way to get rid of them. Cleaning up the mess is on you though

[–] JustAnotherPodunk@lemmy.world 48 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Having read the title and also the whole article.... Let me say. The fuck no you can't. Let's get letigious or let's get the vests. I've got over 200 years of jurisprecisence and the moral high road. We can skip the cultural perogative if you really want to. Or in this case you can endorse it. It doesn't matter to me. as a cisgender white male and, and prolific gun owner, who is utterly tired of this already, let's fuckin go. I've been waiting and i've finally got the perfect set up to tell you how many ways you can blow it out your ass.

Disgusting anti American anti constitutional blowhards all of them.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Love this energy. Get litigious first. The thugs like violence, but they cant win at court - at least not without their favourite judges.

[–] Zanathos@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

This prescident isn't giving time to be litigious first. They will be in your home before you can dial 911, whom is likely helping this happen.

Yeah. Be ready ofc

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 24 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The second amendment says that they can’t

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago

The 2nd is most definitely a recommendation that they tread pretty damn lightly with this one.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 15 points 7 hours ago

Incidentally, it's perfectly legal to own a mounted gatling gun on top the of your property.

[–] wildcardology@lemmy.world 31 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Ok let me get this straight. There's no legal migrant anymore?

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 38 points 9 hours ago

When did they mention migrants at all? The way this is written up is that anyone can be acted upon, all it requires is a "reasonable belief" that someone might be part of a Venezuelan gang. And lets face it, if they have their way no one will be checking anyone's documents before, during or after these raids.

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[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 69 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (3 children)

Any law, rule or regulation that violates the constitution is invalid. The Supreme Court has ruled on this in multiple cases. Unless Congress passes a constitutional amendment that eliminates the 4th amendment, the executive branch must abide by the law as it's written. The executive branch has no authority to make, change or interpret law.

Edit: A lot of laws and constitutional amendments have been made since the 1798 Alien Enemies Act was passed. The 13th Amendment banned slavery (with a loophole) The 14th Amendment gave equal protection under the law among other things. The 1964 Civil Rights Act made it a crime to discriminate based on race and national origin, which pretty much destroys the Alien Enemies Act. No altering the enforcement of our laws based on where the person came from or what they look like.

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 1 points 34 minutes ago

the executive branch must abide by the law as it’s written

That's adorable.

Arm yourselves.

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