Same planned obsolescence, different product. My non-smart thermostat works great and will for years to come.
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Nest has said these products will continue to work as “dumb” thermostats. You can walk up to them and turn the temp up and down. You just can’t access them from your phone or the web anymore.
It’s still ridiculous, but at least it’s as good as a non-smart thermostat.
Honestly I wish Google had never have been allowed to buy Nest. They ruin everything they touch.
Ahh I was worried they would lose functionality completely so that’s better than nothing, but also not what people originally paid for when they bought these products.
Google sure does love to kill projects don’t they?
You can have Smart Thermostats (or Smart devices in general) that aren't subject to planned obsolescence
Like building your own based on ESP32 https://github.com/smeisner/smart-thermostat
Or just buying ones that advertise "Full local control"
You’re right, there are often good alternatives available for those who want smart devices with more longevity. The extra info helps for making informed purchases!
In a clear attempt to ease customer anger, Google is offering a $130 discount on the fourth-gen Nest Learning Thermostat in the US, $160 off the same device in Canada, and 50 percent savings on the Tado Smart Thermostat X in Europe since the Nest lineup will soon be gone.
Fuck right the fuck off Google. "You fell for this the first time. We're betting you fall for this shit again." I hope hope hope that nobody ever buys any of these connected, "smart" devices ever again unless it explicitly runs on your own infra such as Home Assistant.
I had a crusty, old programmable thermostat in my last house with an RF remote that worked everywhere from inside the house. Worked flawlessly and outlasted the first furnace. An acquaintance bought that house from me in 2014. Thermostat still works great.
So much unnecessary e-waste.
Is there a way to connect to the Nest thermostats directly?