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The Danish Armed Forces plan to send unarmed troops to Ukraine for short-term training courses to study the country's drone warfare tactics, Major General Peter Boysen, Denmark's commander-in-chief, told state broadcaster TV 2 on April 16.

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[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Makes a lot of sense. Russia and Ukraine are really the only ones with modern drone warfare tactics. Granted if Russia attacks a NATO country the response and type of war will be different, but drones are going to play a big part either way.

[–] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world -2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

The US has modern drone warfare experience? They use drones yes, but it's not like a full blown war experience?

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

IDK about the US, but in this situation the Danes go to Ukraine to learn modern drone tactics.

[–] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

You said drone warfare tactics.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

I said modern drone warfare tactics.

Using a drone for a specialized op isn't the same thing as sending 20-50 drones out at once amd having to defend against 50 drones a day type thing.

Edit: nor having the infrastructure to deploy said modern tactics.

[–] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

You think the US has been involved in the war in Ukraine and has not used the information gathered to develop tactics and equipment equivalent to or better to Ukraine's?

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I'm sure you can learn a lot by watching, but learning directly from those that actually do it is much better. Denmark is sending actual soldiers to learn.

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

The headline wasn't clear on who is teaching and who is learning. Had a good laugh imagining Ukrainian drone pilots rolling their eyes at a Danish instructor.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

That was exactly my thought too. πŸ˜‹
But the Danes are going to Ukraine to learn, not the other way around.
And that makes much more sense.

[–] civilconvo@sopuli.xyz 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Well done Denmark, greetings from Finland!

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago

It's more like well done Ukraine. It's the Ukrainians teaching the Danes.

[–] JonHammCock@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

Seems a little inhumane to train drones on the Danes, idk

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Could Danes (or any other nationalities) technically not operate drones in Ukraine, but from Denmark? Would that be considered as being active in the war in the sense of sending armed forces to support Ukraine on the ground?

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

This is technically feasible. IRC the US uses satellite comms to control predator drones across the globe from their mainland. There are 2 issues that immediately come to mind:

  1. Latency - Depends on the quality of the link between pilot and end point transmitter, and the increased risks for jamming/hacking, and
  2. Would be an act of war prompting probable orc military retaliation (along the lines of "they're controlling drones from apartments in Moscow so now apartments are fair game?" logic).
[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

How does one find out where a drone is being controlled from though?

[–] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

the issue is keeping this secret over time will be hard, we see alot of leaks from russians its prudent to assume nato intelligence is also leaking in a similar way.

And given how Europe doesn't want to put the boots on the ground right now to stop this war of aggression, they won't do this.

Signals intelligence is a whole specialization, and if that isn't enough simple espionage will suffice. I'm not saying Russia will send a missile to the exact coords of someone controlling a drone from their home in Copenhagen. I'm saying simply the announcement that volunteers are engaging soldiers remotely from NATO cities might be considered 'proper' grounds for war which is why we haven't done so already (or if we have kept damn quiet for this reason).