I think it just twists the lore while being badly written regardless of source material, and often looking incredibly low rent despite having a stupidly high budget, while the cast is patchy, its like they saw the Hobbit films and decided that was moving in the right direction while LotR got it totally wrong. I think its sheer stubbornness that's keeping this show running despite its return on views vs. budget at this point.

Halo.

Its completely out of character for Master Chief to face reveal and had a sex scene, neither is the worst thing with this show either. I get that actors do not like non face roles, see Pedro with Mandalorian, but it should be deal breaker for casting for such roles.

[–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Outside the show, it's not even known whether Spartan IIs have skin below the neck, let alone genitals. Things from Halo are just shoehorned into an unrelated story, which is thought by some to have started out as an adaptation of Mass Effect. Commander Shepherd definitely has skin and genitals in the games, and isn't afraid to use them.

[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

"I'm commander shepard, and halo is my favourite tv show on the citadel."

Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if that turned out to be the case.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Halo was something that shouldn't have happened, the writers admitted they wanted their own story unrelated to Halo.

[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

They already have enough clout to be put in charge of a decent budget tv show, so their idea must have sucked something terrible if they can't get it made without slapping a license onto it

Just make the damn thing you paid to make not your shitty show you can't get anybody else to buy.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

In a slight defense of Rings of Power, I don't think the lore "problems" are really a big deal. It had to not follow the Silmarillion for legal reasons. As someone who hasn't digested that "book" the lore parts seem ok. The problem is most the writing still sucks and has many problems that are more substantial than that's not what Tolkien said in the book that can't be named. Also the weirdly cheap appearance is totally accurate. I think there's also a lot of merit to the rumors much of the writing and props were originally intended for a dragon age adaptation.

[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

Lore is complicated as if you aren't familiar with the letters, silmarillion and appendices to an insane degree, some things that look right are wrong, and some things that look wrong are actually right depending on what you count in cannon.

I think this sums it up for me as the only bits actuallyin the lore:

The existence of characters named Galadriel, Elrond, Durin, Sauron, Isildur, Elendil, Celebrimbor, some of the others

The existence of Numenor and Middle-Earth and some of the places in it
The existence of rings of power

The armour just highlights what I mean with its lazy approach to just about everything.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 22 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Foundation. It's gorgeous, and the first episode is fairly close to the beginning of the book. It very quickly deviates from the source material in ways that totally undermine the themes of the book. It's not necessarily a bad show, I just can't enjoy it because it deviates so much.

[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 10 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I considered reading the books before the series came out, and I’m really glad that I did didn’t. As a result, I fully enjoyed the show.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 6 days ago

I read the books like 20 years ago, so I basically remembered anything about it, and I'm also enjoying it. The best part of the show, the clone emperors aren't even part of the books.

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[–] Snoopey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago

God I found foundation so frustrating to watch, the only characters I liked were the emperors. Everyone else was stupid and insufferable. Such a shame as the books are so so good

[–] Geetnerd@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Wheel of Time.

[–] blackstampede@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Seconded. It was just such an enormous pile of shit from the first episode.

Edit: felt like it was worth mentioning that I've read all the books multiple times, and love them. I just hate what they did to the characters.

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[–] spongeborgcubepants@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

the news

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago

I got to watch the movie 'Network" go from cutting edge satire to staid docudrama in real time.

[–] dariusj18@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Willow, a show so bad Disney pulled it from streaming. I felt really bad for the actors. They were all quite good, just rubbish writing. It felt like someone dusted off some terrible generic YA script and doctored it up to be "willow".

[–] ghostlychonk@lemm.ee 3 points 5 days ago

The Futurama revival on Hulu. I watched the first episode about Fry trying to stream everything he's missed and was completely bored by it. Haven't watched any of it since.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago

Under The Dome.

It was an epic Stephen King novel, with a great story line, and a huge cast of interesting characters, including Big Jim Rennie, one of his best villains. King's output is notoriously inconsistent, but occasionally he is really great, and this was one of those times.

I was so excited that they were bringing it out as a series, since it could never be captured in a single movie, or even a trilogy. Then they announced that Big Jim would be played by Dean Norris (Hank Schrader from Breaking Bad), which was PERFECT casting.

The show started well, with the dropping of The Dome rendered perfectly. Then it went off the rails so quickly that by the third episode, I was enormously pissed off. They i troduced weird new supernatural elements. I assume they were supernatural, because I stopped watching. The story was good enough, they didn't need some hack network writer "fixing" it.

A huge lost opportunity. I hope someone takes another swing at it someday.

[–] remon@ani.social 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

The Netflix live-action Avatar remake.

The animated show is such a materpiece, but it's still a kids show. There was potential to flesh out some of the more adult themes (war, romance) the show touches on in a way a kids show couldn't. But other than that, they should have stuck very, very close to the original show.

Well, maybe I wasn't "highly excited", I was pretty sure they would screw it up.

But what I couldn't have expected was just how badly they would screw it up. It took less then 5 minutes of watching to realise that the show will be bad (as they open with a prime example of "tell, don't show") and it really just went downhill from there. I think I dropped it on episode 4 and it took a lot of forcing myself to even get that far.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

What's really surprising is how once piece ended up being pretty good, after all the garbage adaptations.

[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Oda the writer of the comic had a lot of control and forced them to make changes and do reshoots.

https://screenrant.com/one-piece-netflix-show-reshoots-creator-explained/

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[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

I don't follow anime at all, but I loved the live action One Piece.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago

It's pretty amazing how out of touch Netflix can be

[–] turdburglar@lemm.ee 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

season 3 of yellowjackets. meh. where’d that special thing go?

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[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Game of Thrones, but mostly because it was so good at the start. Controversially I think the series went to shit in Season 5, or even season 4, basically as soon as they started seriously deviating from the books. It's extremely clear what is original for the show and what is from GRRM because everything they came up with outside of the book material is stupid as shit and nobody's actions or motivations make any sense.

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[–] dicksteele@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The anime adaptation of Junji Ito’s uzumaki. It’s a manga that I love and have read it many times, when I heard that there was an anime adaptation that was sticking with the art style, I was interested. When I saw the trailer and heard Colin Stetson’s bizarre music, I knew that this would be amazing. Time passed and I checked on its release every month. It was delayed again and again but I had patience, thinking that they just wanted to get it right. It finally releases and it was amazing, the first episode anyway. When episode 2 drops I can hardly contain my excitement. Yet, something is off with it, I try to ignore it. Third episode, same thing. Last episode, had some improvements but still wasn’t the same quality as the first. I go online and see that people are divided over it, with a very vocal majority saying that something is off. I felt deflated and didn’t join in on the discussions. Time passed and I forgot about it until recently when I saw an article where one of the production staff said that there was some pressure from higher ups and they chose to release what they had or it was gonna get cancelled.

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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

castlevania nocturne, it was supposed to be continuation of the lore of the 1st series, but its pretty bad in many respects. it does try to use nostalgia, but not in the correct plot format. although the 3rd season, if there is one would be better. basically the main antagonists dint capture the audience like the 1st series, in the first 2 seasons.

heard ROP was terrible and extremely expensive, it made sense it cant capture the magic of lotr trilogy. invincible, everyone noticed the animation degraded each season, perhaps funding, and then the amount of time between seasons(mid-season) made the audience rather read the comics instead.

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