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'Your question is so stupid' Trump snaps when asked how much economic pain he'd tolerate
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It's amazing how confident the truly stupid are.
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....claiming tariffs would bring in “$1 trillion”
They've already LOST $11 trillion. What an utter imbecile!!
So it'll just take 11 years to even out.
Edit: Just double checked, it's 1 trillion in the "next year or so". So x >= 11 years :(
tRump maths...lol.
In fairness to Trump, he has never, ever experienced the consequences of his actions. Bankrupt? Didn't put a dent in his life since his father and banks kept the money flowing to him regardless, more than once. Rapist? No jail time. Fraudster? No jail, not sure that any fines have even been paid. So why would he think, when nothing bad happens to him and he can still golf the weekend away, that anything bad will happen to all the people losing their jobs, their investments, their retirement, their homes? Why don't they all have rich fathers and sycophantic bankers to bail them out? At very least they should have Russian mafia backers like he does, that make it look like he's a billionaire, even if it really is billions in debt to them.
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This rhetoric seems similar to that used by Milton Friedman and the Chicago school of economics. They applied 'economic therapy' to left-leaning economies in the late 1900s which involved rapid privatization of nationally owned industries. Negatively affected many otherwise healthy countries including England, Russia and Chilie.
The Shock Doctrine does a round robin of these events; highly recommended.
Project 2025 is about privatizing branches of government while citizens are too busy dealing with the fallout of economic collapse.
They're seriously going to privatize the weather service and social security if we do not continue to take to the streets.
Russia was not healthy when it applied shock therapy. The Soviet Union was collapsing, massive political instability in Moscow, all sorts of countries moving out of the Russian sphere of influence, the first Chechen war started and so forth. It was fairly obvious that big decision had to be made, but unfortunatly Russia choose poorly.
Everybody is thinking way, way too much into this.
If Trump would have to answer a question where he doesn't know the answer, or would have to admit that people disagree with him, or he feels even mildly challenged, this is considered a personal attack on him. You are trying to get him to admit to not being 100% perfect 100% of the time. And he responds to that by lashing out like a small child, attacking you, making up childish names for you, and insulting you. This is how he has always responded.
This has nothing to do with his thoughts on economic policies or the effects of his tariffs. He doesn't think far enough ahead to either know or care. This reporter had the audacity to challenge him, and Trump lashed out. That's all. That's how he always responds.
I can't understand how more people don't understand this. There's no depth to any of this. An immature, ignorant, narrow-minded idiot doing immature, ignorant, narrow-minded things. The media's sane washing is to blame, I guess, if not the straight propaganda from right wing outlets. But at this point if you're still giving the benefit of the doubt you're part of the problem.
So true. You don't have to dig deep into any of his responses when you criticize anything about him. He will lash out. He's a child. That's it.
He will tolerate none for himself.
The rest of us can get fucked. STFU about the price of eggs, right? He’s no longer president. He’s gone full dictator. This is all about him.
It was always all about him. The election was the only way he was staying out of prison and the campaign was lie after lie after lie, telling his moron supporters what they wanted to hear, in order to secure their vote. He doesn't give a shit about those people once they've posted their ballot.
Even if his tariffs do bring in $1 trillion, that's not even half the loss his tariffs have cause in just 3 days.
Well, it is a stupid question. A real journalist would ask how much more pain he's willing to let the American people tolerate for his poorly disguised reverse pump and dump scheme
tRump always speaks in a clear, concise, fact based, evidence based, and in a verifiable manner. He uses proof such as "medicine," "stupid," "someone said," "I heard," "everyone is saying." "Economic medicine," what is that?
Absolutely, and what I like best about him is his trustworthiness and respect for women.
He's also a genius businessman who will run our country like his businesses, which will be great and lead to widespread prosperity.
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His motives may be unclear, but his actions are crystal clear. He’s tried to enact tariffs already and been stopped before they were implemented because everyone knows the level of damage they cause. He’s moving forward this time. He’s deliberately crashing the global economy.
Why? Who knows? His Silicon Valley overlords demand it? I doubt it’s Putin, because Russia’s economy is hanging on by a thread, and the last thing they need is a global downturn, especially when it craters oil prices. Is it just that Trump is stupid, maybe senile, and ultimately in charge?
Regardless, the leader of the biggest economy in the world has decided that it’s time for a global recession/depression, so unless that course is changed, that’s probably what’s going to happen.
His motives are always crystal clear. Ego. He wants people to grovel and beg for exceptions. He wants to feel powerful. The fact that mainstream news won't say so is likely predicted on not wanting to be banned from the press pool like the AP was.
The government and media have a mutually parasitic relationship. The government uses the media to spread and reinforce their propaganda, while the media's jobs are made much easier by having direct and ostensibly willing access to the people in government. If they want access, the media has to play ball. The rules seem to be unwritten, like their own little interwoven social contract. The result being that they've mostly become pushovers when some Orange Jackass comes along to play dictator and burn the country to the ground in pursuit of his own aggrandizement.
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It's all plans from the '30s. Canada, the US, Mexico, Greenland, dismantling democracy to install technocrats, crashing the economy to bring back company towns - none of it is new, it's just being implemented in a nonsensical and incompetent way, so it seems random
It's not a good plan to start with, but there is a plan... One the oligarchs bought into, but without understanding how the plan was meant to be enacted
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"sometimes you have to take medicine to fix something"
Exactly, medicine exists to fix something. What Trump is doing is substance abuse.
... Even... if Trump... can bring in $1 trillion... somehow...
US stock markets have wiped out $ 9 trillion in market cap since Trump became President.
.... So uh. Yeah.
1 - 9 is -8, Don.
Great plan.
That $1 trillion he's claiming also comes from the pockets of Americans, so it's more like - 1 - 9 = - 10.
I am trying to give him a delusional level of benefit of thr doubt in thinking that some fucking how these tariffs actually result in 1 trillion in new US manufacturing industries/investments.
Even by his own... """"logic"""" ... his plan makes no fucking sense.
Of course yes, in reality... it makes even less sense, because you don't get new manufacturing in a very high cost of living country without extremely well thought out industrial policy, subsidies, ways to attract needed talent, and investment, and ... you get it.
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The only way I see the US becoming "solid and strong again", is a revolution that results in a Constitution v2.0 that fixes many issues with the structure of government, voting, and setting rules regarding wealth. Otherwise, odds are that the US will splinter apart into several major bodies.
On the plus side of splintering, it means many conservatives would flee out of Blue States, and the Blue States get more people who believe in governance, science, democracy, and society. They would be far more stronger and influential than Red States in the long run. Blue States won't have to play ball with stupid conservative ideas, such as non-medical vaccine exemptions, anti-migrant policies, and so forth.
At least one revolution is already underway, but those responsible for the current change are wearing red hats. The neo-reactionary Butterfly Revolution.
Unfortunately, most Democratic Party politicians today are the real conservatives in the sense that they simply want to preserve the old system.
And there are people who identify as Democrats but are increasingly disillusioned, who want reform or revolution in the direction of a egalitarian, democratic society with strong social welfare systems geared toward equity (let’s hope they grow in number), not in the direction of the elitist, authoritarian, technofeudalist, rigid hierarchical society proposed by adherents of the Dark Enlightenment ideas. Such people could redirect the current Butterfly Revolution in the opposite direction and foment division among Republicans.
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he's totally ok that every vulnerable has to eat leather boots to make it through a depression.
"libs were pwned"
Donald doesn't have to tolerate any pain. He's a billionaire. Billionaire's way of life will still be unbelievably fabulous. It's us that suffer at their expense.
He's a billionaire.
Allegedly. His inability to pay some of the judgments against him calls that into question, e.g. the E. Jean Carrol suit. If nothing else, he definitely has a billionaire mindset.
Trump Media and the Trumpcoin crypto scam have, sadly, probably put his net worth back up high enough for him to actually be able to truthfully call himself a billionaire again. He just doesn't pay his court judgements because what are they gonna do about it if he doesn't? Take him to court again? His whole strategy is to make plaintiffs go broke trying to collect from him, which is why he has it out for all the law firms working pro bono against him right now.
Wanna ask Trump if he'll still be alive by the time American manufacturing makes his tariffs pay off
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Can we just elect Camacho? He's more qualified than whatever the fuck we got now
No can do, Camacho was black. And we can't have another black president. /s
Economic Medicine? This shit must have been economics course at the fucking failed Trump University.
its called a word salad, and the WEAVE.
Trump will endure precisely zero economic pain since he is rich. He doesn't have to go through anything. He sits in a literal ivory tower why would he feel bad about anything?
Stupid questions for stupid people.
Trump bankrupted a casino, is anyone surprised he's doing the same to America.
Wrong. WRONG!
It was more than one casino.
1991: Trump Taj Mahal
1992: Trump Castle Hotel & Casino
1992: Trump Plaza Casino
1992: Trump Plaza Hotel (not a casino, 'just' a hotel.)
2004: Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts
2009: Trump Entertainment Resorts (casino holding company)
There are numerous other businesses that failed spectacularly, too.
Then there are the failed businesses that were neverbsupposed to succeed because they were fraud from the inception, like Trump University. They announced it and promoted it, and signed up students, who took out student loans ffrom the government and sent them to thebadmissions department.
Then it turned out that they never bought/ rented a single building, hired no teachers, never created a curriculum, etc. They didn't do one thing to create a school except sign up students and take their student loan money. It didn't go bankrupt, it never existed, but they sold it anyway.
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I don't get it. If your position is that a temporary downturn is necessary then the question seems very sensible. And somehow Trump says it is necessary but asking about the maximum extent he'd go for is very stupid?
It's not supposed to be temporary. They want to destroy the economy. They want to destroy the entire system that FDR started. They want to tear down the US and their Western allies, that's their true goal, and create something like Praxis in its place, a supposed libertarian paradise where every city and piece of land is controlled by a Corporation that has judicial and executive power over one territory, a fiefdom.
It's technofeudalism, a form of facism,
https://theplotagainstamerica.com/
https://time.com/6092844/peter-thiel-power-biography-the-contrarian/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-feudalism
https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technofeudalism
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Land
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment
This also ties with Greenland,
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/01/16/spiritual-case-greenland-trump-00198848
The Heritage Foundation, famous for Project 25, has its interests aligned with the technofeudalists because this measure will give enormous power to the Churches, which in essence are nothing more than Corporations too.
Opus Dei is one of the groups behind the Heritage Foundation's Project 25, whose current president is Kevin Roberts, who has an extensive history of involvement with American Catholic organizations.
Here you can see Kevin Roberts speech at CIC (Opus Dei Headquarters on K Street, Washington DC) last year,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqgfhZpRZhg
Peter Thiel himself has connections to the Opus Dei,
https://crisismagazine.com/opinion/the-final-conversations-of-a-dying-priest
https://www.project2025.observer/
And if you, my reader, still think this will be good for your small or medium-sized business. Remember. In a world where Corporations are Kingdoms, new entrepreneurs are separatists. They will be crushed.
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