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Hello, do you know any place to buy Monero for online payment ? It seems that LocalMonero is winding down and I don't want to use some big exchanges like Coinbase for obvious reasons. Thank you very much!

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[–] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
[–] CashDragon@realbitcoin.cash 10 points 1 week ago

https://retoswap.com/ is the functioning instance of Haveno DEX. The main project does not run a live network.

[–] liliumstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've used https://changenow.io/ several times to get XMR from LTC or vice versa. It's always worked for me, but I've heard of people's transactions being held if they were large amounts, so exercise caution.

This doesn't solve the problem of buying the initial crypto, which may or may not be difficult, depending on your jurisdiction.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 4 points 1 week ago

If the initial swap is from Bitcoin, there is Bisq - that's been around for much longer than Haveno. Not tried myself, though.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

what is the process of using these, generally? (I assume there are variations)

are there ATMs that work without a camera pointed at your face?

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

I haven't explored that yet as here is none nearby. There aren't many vendors of these machines.

[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do these accept cash, or only ATM cards? (The latter would link your transaction to your bank account, of course.)

What do they give? A printout of a wallet address?

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

Dunno (yet); i'd assume they'd scan your wallet QR?

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago

Retoswap.com. You download the software similar to Bisq and you can transfer Fiat into Monero. Just this month it's had its first five million dollar month. And so it's increasing all the time.

Haveno reto

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago

I'll miss the ability to buy using cash-bought gift vouchers as that seems the only straightforward way to preserve privacy.

[–] Hirom@beehaw.org -3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Monero has a disproportionally large energy usage and footprint on the environment. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41893-018-0152-7

Please consider less wasteful alternatives. Every bit help, it's about keeping earth safe for human life.

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

"Every bit helps"

Not if it defeats the purpose of whatever you're doing in the first place.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 points 6 days ago

alternatives are totally worthless for the only useful property of cryptocurrencies, which is private payments

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Alternatives - like what? I understand the concerns but for now Monero is the closest we have to "digital cash". Hope there would eventually be a more energy-efficient successor.

[–] Hirom@beehaw.org 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Alternatives like actual cash, proof-of-stake cryptocurrency, or even EMV.

Most alternatives aren't completely anonymous payment methods, but Monero's anonymity isn't worth wasting so much resources.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 1 points 6 days ago

I do use cash when possible indeed! But Monero is for things that you can't physically receive in a store's office, like a domain name. It's not a lot, but it is necessary. Gift cards are not available everywhere, and the ones available somewhere would not necessarily work in other countries.

I think cash-like anonymity is something we do really need in online payments. For me personally it is not critical. But I would still not like my VPS and domain name KYCed to me, for example if, say, something like censorship evasion is prosecuted retrospectively.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

That doesn't have any of the privacy and anonymity features. I'd have to read more on this project, though - did hear about it before. Also, what's relevant right now is that it's not accepted as commonly as even Monero (which in itself is sadly not as common as Bitcoin).