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[–] digdilem@lemmy.ml 72 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Surprised at the level of negativity here. Having had my sites repeatedly DDOSed offline by Claudebot and others scraping the same damned thing over and over again, thousands of times a second, I welcome any measures to help.

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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"I used the AI to destroy the AI"

[–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We had to kill the internet, to save the internet.

[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago

We have to kill the Internet, to save humanity.

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[–] 4am@lemm.ee 307 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Imagine how much power is wasted on this unfortunate necessity.

Now imagine how much power will be wasted circumventing it.

Fucking clown world we live in

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 55 points 2 days ago (14 children)

On on hand, yes. On the other...imagine frustration of management of companies making and selling AI services. This is such a sweet thing to imagine.

[–] halfapage@lemmy.world 86 points 2 days ago (2 children)

My dude, they'll literally sell services to both sides of the market.

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

I...uh...frick.

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[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 85 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Burning 29 acres of rainforest a day to do nothing

[–] AtomicHotSauce@lemmy.world 211 points 2 days ago (6 children)

That's just BattleBots with a different name.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

No, it is far less environmentally friendly than rc bots made of metal, plastic, and electronics full of nasty little things like batteries blasting, sawing, burning and smashing one another to pieces.

[–] aviationeast@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ok, I now need a screensaver that I can tie to a cloudflare instance that visualizes the generated "maze" and a bot's attempts to get out.

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[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 107 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So the web is a corporate war zone now and you can choose feudal protection or being attacked from all sides. What a time to be alive.

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[–] RelativeArea1@sh.itjust.works 161 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

this is some fucking stupid situation, we somewhat got a faster internet and these bots messing each other are hogging the bandwidth.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (17 children)

nothing can be improved while capitalism or authority exist; all improvement will be seized and used to oppress.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 days ago (12 children)

How can authority not exist? That's staggeringly broad

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[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The problem you aren’t recognizing is that, until humans are no longer driven by self preservation, there will always be oppression in any system. They all have and will continue to breakdown. It’s easy to blame capitalism but even socialist systems eventually cave under the weight of greed and power. We are the problem mon frère.

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[–] TorJansen@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And soon, the already AI-flooded net will be filled with so much nonsense that it becomes impossible for anyone to get some real work done. Sigh.

[–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Some of us are only here to crank hog.

[–] gac11@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago
[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 114 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not exactly how I expected the AI wars to go, but I guess since we're in a cyberpunk world, we take what we get

[–] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 71 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Next step is an AI that detects AI labyrinth.

It gets trained on labyrinths generated by another AI.

So you have an AI generating labyrinths to train an AI to detect labyrinths which are generated by another AI so that your original AI crawler doesn't get lost.

It's gonna be AI all the way down.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (29 children)

All the while each AI costs more power than a million human beings to run, and the world burns down around us.

[–] Fluke@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is the great filter.

Why isn't there detectable life out there? They all do the same thing we're doing. Undone by greed.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Considering how many false positives Cloudflare serves I see nothing but misery coming from this.

[–] Xella@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Lol I work in healthcare and Cloudflare regularly blocks incoming electronic orders because the clinical notes "resemble" SQL injection. Nurses type all sorts of random stuff in their notes so there's no managing that. Drives me insane!

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In terms of Lemmy instances, if your instance is behind cloudflare and you turn on AI protection, federation breaks. So their tools are not very helpful for fighting the AI scraping.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can't you configure exceptions for behaviours?

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 day ago

I'm not sure what can be done at the free tier. There is a switch to turn on AI not blocking, and it breaks federation.

You can't whitelist domains because federation could come from and domain. Maybe you could somehow whitelist /inbox for the ActivityPub communication, but I'm not sure how to do that in Cloudflare.

[–] quack@lemmy.zip 49 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Generating content with AI to throw off crawlers. I dread to think of the resources we’re wasting on this utter insanity now, but hey who the fuck cares as long as the line keeps going up for these leeches.

[–] AnthropomorphicCat@lemmy.world 65 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So the world is now wasting energy and resources to generate AI content in order to combat AI crawlers, by making them waste more energy and resources. Great! 👍

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[–] weremacaque@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You have Thirteen hours in which to solve the labyrinth before your baby AI becomes one of us, forever.

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