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im with you 👊

Ah, the French Canadian spirit!

Probably more Americans support being annexed by Canada than annexing Canada.

The Vancouver Sun is owned by postmedia... so take whatever they,say with a grain of salt.

That 18% number is based on polls that may be kinda susp, but even if it were true a lot of what I've heard from the dumbass gallery has been:

"Cool, then our dollar would finally be equal to USD" and "It'll be easier to get flights to the US and Disneyland" or "Then we can vote in a proper government they're and fix things"

I doubt the appetite for such goes much past a lack of critical thinking into what the realities would be

The one in five conservatives who want to be annexed by America know its the only way they can get American citizenship since they are probably low education and low skilled labour that America doesn't even want. Otherwise they would just move to America.

Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio Cortez are heading out to states to lead town halls after this most recent budget passing.

This is what Democrats should be doing: preparing for 2028 by reaching out to people now, or at the very least educating them on what's happening and what might happen in the other 46 months (or more...) of Trump's second presidency.

I used to be angry.

I still am, but I used to be, too.

I hope you're right, but the public's memory is short.

The polling suggests that the CPC is capturing young, angry, and terminally online voters same as Trump did. So that's a bit concerning.

I'm from the east, but have some in-laws from Alberta. Not farmers though, people with family in the oil industry. They seem to 100% support Pollievre and went from Trudeau is evil to Carney is evil before they knew anything about him. So the CPC will probably still do ok in Alberta.

There's also people who've read the newspaper every day of their lives and now that newspaper is owned by postmedia. They tend to hate every prominent Liberal, wonder why?

But yeah Pollievre lost a lot of support in the eastern part of the country. Hearing about the security clearance stuff from family members unprompted, and people are very suspicious of a guy that doesn't want to even look at the intel about who in his party may be a foreign asset.

Given all of the factors of American oil industry influence, American postmedia influence and American social media influence, I think it will be close.

I live in the Ottawa region and the attitude around here is simply that Trump handed the Liberals the win. I don't think this election is unsalvageable for the Conservatives (and frankly I think it's dangerous to think so) but they've got a mountain to climb, that's for sure.

Ontario's demographic in Toronto and Ottawa could be summed up as "urban conservative". Interestingly many of them think of themselves as left-wing or progressive and think the same of the Liberals. The reality is very different: they view public servants, the poor, and any other right-wing punching bags as undesirables, they protest any efforts to get housing built, and they even harass striking workers. But hey they're down with "the gays" so they're forward thinking right?

The anger I'm seeing isn't just at Trump, it's at Americans in general.

They voted for this lunatic, twice. How can we possibly trust that shit like this won't ever happen again?

Upper and Lower Canada making a comeback, with slightly different meanings.

There is a significant difference between a regular person, even a TV personality, and a politician saying that. Enough so that I don't think the term "to be fair" can be applied to it.

I doubt that. He fucked up the first time around, broke shit, wrecked things, stole classified documents, convicted of 34 felons, stole PPE from blue states to kill them during covid and millions needlessly died during covid. What happened? Nothing. People don't really remember any of that. He was never punished for any of his actions or crimes.

Trump is the prime example of American hubris and apathy.