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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 87 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Fucking hilarious that the Republicans brought up the downgraded credit rating that they caused and pin it on Diamond Joe lmao.

Fucking scum bags.

[–] negativenull@lemm.ee 55 points 1 year ago (6 children)

They are trying hard to pin blame on all this "chaos" on Democrats. Nobody is buying it.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I bet the same people that have been buying this bullshit for the last 50 years are buying it now.

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

Well, they're supposed to just roll over and let them do what they want! How dare they ask for facts, reason, and properly ran debates! The temerity of it all!

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[–] NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Theodore Medad Pomeroy was elected as speaker on the last day of the 40th Congress on March 3, 1869. It was a gesture of respect and honor ahead of his retirement. He served one day as speaker, basically an honorary role, speaker for the day and then congres adjourned for the year. He was the shortest serving house speaker in US history. The second shortest serving house speaker is Kevin McCarthy.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

May be all aspire to one day be named something as dignified as Theodore Medad Pomeroy.

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[–] 0x0001@sh.itjust.works 73 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

216 yes, 210 no

✅ Resolution is adopted. Speaker position is vacated.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Goddamn, this is hilarious to watch.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

McCarthy's second in command banged that gavel so hard when he called a recess. Republicans must be fuming.

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[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago (4 children)

On this day, McCarthy remembered -- this is exactly what everyone said was going to happen and why no one understood why he wanted the position so badly.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup. Literally no one is shocked by this. Not even Kevin McCarthy.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The only thing I find baffling is that he didn't negotiate with the democrats over the funding bill sooner. He knew he wouldn't last regardless and yet he still put party above principle. I don't understand someone getting stabbed in the back and then working with the stabber to stab others.

[–] villainy@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

He could have just stuck to the deal he already agreed to in May. The extreme right would still hate him but Democrats would have at least one reason to help him out. Now the crazy pants caucus hates him for caving and the Democrats know he cannot be trusted. He did this to himself.

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

He's a power grabber. He was convinced that he'd find SOME way of staying in power. It was only at the very edge of the precipice that he made a deal with the Democrats. At that point, the government certainly shutting down would have hurt his power more than the possibility that Gaetz would vacate the chair.

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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's hilarious to hear Republican after Republican attack the Democrats over this ridiculousness, when they desperately need Democrats to vote not to vacate. They're not doing their own arguments any favors.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"I stole your car and crashed it into a fireworks factory while high on bath salts but it's your fault you didn't stop me!"

[–] spider@lemmy.nz 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This message brought to you by The Party of Personal Responsibility

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The Party of Law and Order™ with their top candidate under four indictments

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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hunter Biden! I got a BINGO!

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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

In a nutshell, here’s what happened. In January, McCarthy made an agreement with hardline conservatives, some of whose terms have never been made public, to ultimately secure their support as Speaker. In May, McCarthy made a (public) agreement with Democrats to set the federal budget at a certain level in order to avert a default on the national debt. In September, though, McCarthy (under pressure from hardliners) attempted to secure further funding cuts during negotiations over a potential government shutdown—then ultimately conceded to Democrats and helped pass a funding bill that largely did not include any of the cuts that the hardliners sought (which were cuts that McCarthy had originally, in May, told Democrats he wouldn’t seek).

McCarthy has left both his party’s furthest-right members and the entire Democratic caucus with the belief that he cannot be trusted, which is why Democrats are expected to join Monday afternoon with hyper-aggressive Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz and at least five other conservatives in supporting a “motion to vacate the chair” in the House, i.e end McCarthy’s speakership. (Republicans currently hold 221 House seats to Democrats’ 212.)

If that happens—and it’s a fluid situation—there’s no telling what will happen next. No other Republicans have actually said they want to be Speaker, which would put us roughly back where we were in January: With McCarthy holding enough support among Republicans that no one else is a plausible candidate to become Speaker, but not enough support to win a majority of the entire House, which is what’s required, and actually assume the position. (And yes, the House needs a Speaker.)

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If that happens—and it’s a fluid situation—there’s no telling what will happen next.

That's not strictly true. If there is no Speaker, then all the House can do is vote for one. So we know exactly what happens next. What we don't know is who will end up with the job, or how long it will take to pick that person. It could be over on the first vote, or it could take days (even weeks).

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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Update: House Democratic leadership will vote yes on the pending Republican Motion to Vacate the Chair

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[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We have like 40 days to figure out a new speaker and then find the govt. it was hard enough to pick one the first time. This isn’t going to end well

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not that hard. Dems just need to pick a republican who isn't a complete piece of shit......oh wait. It is going to be hard.

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[–] Heresy_generator@kbin.social 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well, Kevin... at least you outlasted a head of lettuce.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

so basically they now have 45 days to pass a CR or the Republicans will shut down the government again and 20 of those days will be spent picking a new speaker...

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (5 children)

20 days to pick a new speaker

24 days to argue about the bill within their own party

1 day for the speaker to hastily save the party from owning another shutdown

7 days for that speaker to be kicked out

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[–] NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

McCarthy gets ousted by his own party, somehow manages to blame Democrats. Speaking to the press just now:

“I think today was a political decision by the Democrats. And I think I think the things they have done in the past hurt the institution,” he said.

What a piece of shit, good riddance. The 45 daystop gap funding bill he put on the floor for a vote an hour after it was introduced, leaving Dems no time to read 77 page bill to see if it had poison pills they couldn't vote for. Classy guy. Just today it was reported he was refusing to postpone votes on Thursday so membera could attend Dianne Feinstein's funeral.

The new guy doesn't seem to be any better:

As one of his first acts as the acting speaker, Rep. Patrick McHenry ordered former Speaker Nancy Pelosi to vacate her Capitol hideaway office by Wednesday, according to an email sent to her office viewed by POLITICO.

“Please vacate the space tomorrow, the room will be re-keyed,” wrote a top aide on the Republican-controlled House Administration Committee. The room was being reassigned by the acting speaker “for speaker office use,” the email said.

Only a select few House lawmakers get hideaway offices in the Capitol, compared to their commonplace presence in the Senate.

The former speaker blasted the eviction in a statement as “a sharp departure from tradition,” adding that she had given former Speaker Dennis Hastert “a significantly larger suite of offices for as long as he wished” during her tenure.

Pelosi didn't even vote today, she was in SF with Fienstein. But don't let that get in the way of partisan bullshit. And she said she won't be able to pack up by Wednesday for the same reason. Fucking gouls.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

A petty person abusing temporary authority.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago
[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Holy fucking gaslighting, Batman!

These fuckers live in an alternate universe.

Will the democrats get a chance to speak? If so, all they have to do is say, "This is what you get when you vote for republicans"

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[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"If you throw a speaker out that has 99 percent of their conference, that kept government open and paid the troops, I think we're in a really bad place," McCarthy told reporters in the Capitol Tuesday morning.

Guess he's not talking about himself because he's got only 96.33%(210/218) of his conference...

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I imagine him sickcrying right now as he packs his shit to move down into the basement next to the waterheater and boiler for the House.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I never WANTED TO BE SPEAKER ANYWAY!

heavy sobs as he wipes his nose with his sleave

Stoopid gavel is TOO FUCKING SMALL ANYWAY!

Kevin then angerly throws a scrapbook of his first week in office across the room and throws himself onto a couch. He hiccup sobs into a pillow as The Cranberries ode to my family plays in the background

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[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Taako_Tuesday@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't doubt that putin's interest is in creating disruption in the US, but I think the much louder call is coming from inside the house. American corporations and the wealthy benefit greatly from a congress that is too crisis-ridden to regulate them.

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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

House rejects attempt to spare Kevin McCarthy a vote on removal.

The Republican-led House on Tuesday voted down a motion to table a resolution that would remove the California Republican from the speakership. As a result, the chamber will move forward with a vote on whether McCarthy should lose his position. His removal is being sought by hard-right members of his party and Democrats have signaled they won’t save him.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/10/03/kevin-mccarthy-house-speaker-vote-2/

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[–] Heresy_generator@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Some real anger from temporary speaker bow-tie on that gavel.

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[–] atocci@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yelling "somebody pull the fire alarm" in the middle of the vote. Going well I see.

[–] NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah that was a great joke from a guy whose party was in the process of going to historic levels of effort to prove they are incapable of governing.

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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

"The Speaker of the House is chosen by the Majority Party. In this Congress, it is the responsibility of House Republicans to choose a nominee & elect the Speaker on the Floor. At this time there is no justification for a departure from this tradition. The House will be in order" - Former Speaker Nancy Pelosi

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