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Troubled robot vacuum-cleaner maker iRobot, abandoned by Amazon after regulators effectively doomed the web giant's takeover offer, has warned investors it may not survive the next 12 months.

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[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 58 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (11 children)

It would be great if more smart devices had a LAN-only control mode like my 3D printer, TV and AV receiver.

I would be perfectly happy if my iRobot phone app only worked from inside my network.

[–] exu@feditown.com 7 points 10 hours ago

I think it's just using MQTT, so block network access and use HomeAssistant

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 15 points 13 hours ago

At that point, I wouldn't trust ANY device that cannot be controlled locally, either natively or at least through some hacks.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 3 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Your 3d printer has a NIC?

[–] aarch64@lemm.ee 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It's pretty common for newer 3D printers to have WiFi. Start/stop jobs, monitor cameras, or just to have a more capable UI than the built-in screen. Lots of people add this capability to older printers (or new ones with sucky interfaces) with OctoPrint.

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago

And some brands of 3D printers have started placing those functionalities behind remote servers and paywalls

cough cough Bambu Labs cough cough

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[–] drasglaf@sh.itjust.works 3 points 12 hours ago

My cheap Conga robot came with a remote controller. It stopped connecting to its server long ago, but I can still use it. The battery is getting worse and worse, though.

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[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Slightly off topic but how are y'all at replacing the parts that get worn out?

I'm still on the 2nd filter it came with and I haven't replaced any of the brushes, etc.,

I kind of wish I had a maintenance schedule where I just had the parts delivered and replaced them at set intervals rather than having to guess when it's worn out.

But I also don't want to overspend.

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

There are a million third party vendors that sell replacements on amazon, just take a look. Though - and I don't know for sure having not actually read the article - it seems as though you may also need to change out the firmware so you can keep operating it if iRobot's servers go down, since all the roombas i'm aware of need internet connectivity to operate.

If you're at the point where you need to start replacing parts, it might be worth starting to look into other brands

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 hours ago

My Roomba doesn't connect to the Internet -- I use the clean and dock buttons

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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 49 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

I'm a bit of a diy and repair nerd for damned near anything. I have a near 20 year old roomba 530 model that still works great. Back then and for a good many years roombas were hands down the best bang for your buck. I haven't recommended them for the past decade. They fell behind in ability and build quality. Let alone any of the privacy concerns stuff. Damned shame.

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (3 children)

Mozilla gave them an OK privacy rating. Not great, but not terrible.

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[–] freely1333@reddthat.com 18 points 17 hours ago

Patiently awaiting Congress to ban any Chinese robot vacuums out of national security risk

[–] zenpocalypse@lemm.ee 12 points 19 hours ago

Had an old one that kinda works but is a pain. More recently, we splurged on a more modern pet version with Wi-Fi and all the bells.

It was fantastic. And 3 weeks in, couldn't stay connected to the network even right beside the router and was doing constant very short runs before returning to the dock saying it was full.

Returned it.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 166 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Hmm so this entire trick of setting up companies just to be bought by mega corps appears to be not a viable strategy if anti trust law is enforced?

Edit: apparently this company was set up before sell to mega corp craze got kicked off. I don't think changes the thesis but this case study doesn't support it with the strength I suggested

Hmm as if last 30 years of corpo behavior has been essentially to maintain mega corp dominance via captured regulators and legislators

We got the capitalism alright but where is the free market at, daddy?

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 45 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

setting up companies just to be bought by mega corps

iRobot was originally founded all the way back in 1990 and have sold quite a lot of Roomba vacuums, advancing innovation in home automation along the way. I don’t think anyone can ever say that they set up this company for a quick flip corpo pump and dump.

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[–] Glitchvid@lemmy.world 83 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Don't worry, the new strategy is to string a company along with talks of a buyout, then when their cash runs out and they declare bankruptcy, to buy all the assets on fire sale.

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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 98 points 23 hours ago (10 children)

(I know I didn't contribute shit & just complain but) ... isn't it a bit weird how after all this time there arent any good open sauce diy robot kits?

Like, materials, sensors, brushes, filters, batteries, etc are all cheaply available, a basic board could literally be just cut plywood with the rest is the things mounted on top (who even needs a cover?). And ofc one could mount various weapons mod on it.

[–] turkalino@lemmy.yachts 12 points 14 hours ago (6 children)

I love DIY tech projects and yet I would never go through the effort to make a robot vacuum because vacuuming is already the easiest chore in the house. You kinda just stand there and go swoop swoop swoop a few times. Takes like 3 minutes to do an entire room. As opposed to listening to the robot vacuum rumble around for an hour and do a half ass job, if it even finishes without getting spooked by a shadow thinking it’s a 100ft cliff

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 hours ago

I really don't like vacuuming, so to me it doesn't matter how long it takes; I can set it up and then leave the house

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago

Better to put my efforts toward automating the flipping of light switches and the raising/lowering of window shades

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 3 points 13 hours ago

Yes, we all need to manage our lives & our shortcomings.
I like vacuum cleaning chore too, but can have periods when my brainhole just won't register the todo.

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[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 79 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

There is https://valetudo.cloud/ for a lot of existing models, it's about the closest thing we have.

[–] onoki@reddthat.com 16 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

"for a lot of models" is a bit of an exaggeration. Especially as Xiaomi/Dreame try to actively restrict Valetudo use.

But yes, Valetudo is a great project. I'd just wish there was a manufacturer who would openly endorse it.

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[–] mx_smith@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Didn’t iRobot put out a DIY robot/vacuum that you could assemble how you wanted?

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, but it didn't have a vacuum. It was just a development thing.

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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 17 points 20 hours ago

Popular Science had an "open source" robot lawnmower plans in the...80s? I have it somewhere. Old enough that it used deep cycle lead-acid batteries and spinning round dremel blades. No laser to cut the grass, although it did use LEDs for sensors for grass height.

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[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Tried several of those vacuums but none really worked that well

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 11 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Have you tried Roborock? It's an amazing vacuum and connects very well inside Home Assistant.

[–] ButtDrugs@lemm.ee 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Also easy to repair. I got one that's like 8 years old and I replaced the blower and a sensor and its super easy and the components are cheap.

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[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Nah I got kids they will kill it on no time

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 5 points 11 hours ago

I do too. I just run it when they are in school. I keep the vacuum in my coat closet and open the door when I'm about to run it.

[–] kane@femboys.biz 61 points 23 hours ago (12 children)

Their products require their app, would this effectively turn their devices useless when the servers die?

I know it supports a single button to start cleaning, but I wonder if that will work properly without being able to call home.

Might be time for people to look for alternatives.

[–] TheGreatSnacku@lemm.ee 44 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

It technically still works without the app but it loses features that increase the efficiency of the map, tells it where not to clean, scheduled cleaning, etc.

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 53 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Another company squandering their patents and market advantage. Reminds me of TiVo.

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[–] bouncing_blob@sh.itjust.works 36 points 23 hours ago

my first thought was aren't they a part of the Military Industrial Complex, how could they possibly go bankrupt? It turns out they sold off that part of their business in 2016 to private equity. Oops.

[–] cyd@lemmy.world 17 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Pretty much inevitable. Nowadays there are so many robot vacuum cleaners from different brands, and everyone has more or less figured out the tech so they all work pretty well. (I have a Roborock, and have nothing to say about it other than it keeps the floors clean and doesn't cause me any grief.) There's no moat, so consumer market success is purely a matter of manufacturing and cost efficiency, and iRobot obviously would have a huge upfill fight against Samsung, Xiaomi, and a thousand other light consumer goods makers.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago

I bought a roborock Q Revo the other week, and it works great at vacuuming and mopping.

I changed its spoken language to Chinese though, to remind me who I'm living with.

I thought this was a funny gag, until I changed my router and wifi, and then had to update the robots wifi connection with all the voice prompts in chinese

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