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[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 minutes ago

Finally, I can proudly proclaim that I'm no longer bound Microsoft's bullshit. Been a rocky start, but I've been happily using Kubuntu on my Surface for a while now, and it's going awesome

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 4 points 58 minutes ago

Microsoft what the fuck are you doing.

You fucking idiot's.

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 4 points 1 hour ago

Notepad++ FTW

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 53 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

This is misinformation. They added the login requirement for their Generative AI and the actual notepad doesn't require a login. But I guess we're ragebaiting today.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 21 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Upvoted for visibility.

I recommend Notepad++.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I use Kate on the windows work pc

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

I love Kate, but I've only been using it since last August. Been using npp for a decade before that, even as my IDE, and I felt like it was stronger than Kate.

Kate has a lot of features that are not well documented or that you have to tape together to make something functional, while npp just works out of the box or with one of its many addons. Additionally the Kate documentation website is atrocious, lacking even basic search functionality. I had to join their IRC channel to get help figuring out something (path to some obscure config file that the latest version actually reads from), and while they were most helpful, I really shouldn't have had to go through all that trouble.

Maybe my approach to trying to solve a problem was wrong, coming from Windows + npp.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 3 hours ago

I use Kate on the windows work pc

[–] LittleRatInALittleHat@lemmy.world 12 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Is the Genevieve AI enabled by default?

After opening the notepad app does it ask you for that login?

Is your access to notepad restricted by the login?

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

"But it turns out that, while this screenshot is indeed real, those eagle-eyed enough should already be able to tell that something isn't quite lining up here. In fact, nearly any Windows 11 user could open up the fully updated Notepad without getting this pop-up at all, even if they aren't already signed into a Microsoft account. So, what's the deal here?"

"The key is in the exact wording, identifiable within the first sentence: "Sign in with your Microsoft account to use Rewrite and its features in Notepad." This is a prompt that exists, yes, but one that's exclusive to Copilot+ PCs and explicitly requires the user to trigger it by clicking the Rewrite button, as confirmed by our own testing."

https://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/no-notepad-for-windows-11-doesnt-require-you-to-use-a-microsoft-account-unless-youre-trying-to-use-ai

https://www.techradar.com/computing/windows/seen-those-complaints-online-about-having-to-sign-in-to-your-microsoft-account-to-use-windows-11s-notepad-app-its-all-a-load-of-hot-air

Please read the article. No. My access to notepad is not restricted. I also don't run any copilot features of any kind on windows 11. Yes, I believe Generative AI Copilot is enabled by default, but in this case the only time you get promoted to login is when you use a feature in notepad that directly needs copilot in order to work and you the user have to select that feature. Meaning you can use notepad without it entirely and never even see this prompt at all.

Microsoft is a tech giant with all the bad crap that implies. They do enough terrible things that we don't need to lie to make them look bad.

[–] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

So, turns out that they final push that convinced me to start learning Linux is the ol' Text Document.txt of all things. Swear to God, I thought that it would be the automatic updates nuking my unsaved work (again), but here we are...

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 20 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's so stupid that they're making these additions to notepad. There is a need to have a basic text editor on an OS that isn't going to try to "help" by giving recommendations, automatically backs up files or whatever other shit they're trying to jam into it.

They had wordpad and if they wanted to add additional features into that, that's completely fine. There are use cases for something that does a bit more than a simple text editor like notepad can do.

My guess is that they tracked that people used notepad more often than wordpad so they removed wordpad. Then started making notepad more like wordpad without considering why people used notepad more frequently.

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

It is batshit crazy. Notepad was never meant to be what they are making it into. Not even WordPad should have AI nonsense. It's just not for that. It would be like adding advanced spreadsheet functionality to Microsoft Word. It's not what that's for, you have Excel for that.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

Sure but with Wordpad I wouldn't much care if they spam it up with this kind of crap. It's something that doesn't have much use now, because there's notepad for basic text files and Word or Libre Office for actual word processing. So if someone wanted something to type up some notes that get automatic backups, and have AI recommendations (not that it would be me, but who knows?) just put it on there so we still have a simple text editor that's installed by default.

If they're going to enshittify something at least don't enshittify the basic tools of the OS.

[–] the_doktor@lemmy.zip 10 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

How much shit are people going to endure before realizing Windows isn't for them any more?

Dump the damn thing and use Linux. Yes, Linux is friendly, easy to use, you can play most games, you don't need your proprietary programs because there are Free alternatives that are just as good that might take you a moment to adjust to (don't cry about how it's different, that's Baby Duck Syndrome), and so on.

And Microsoft facilitates fascism and government spyware and all sorts of evil crap. So does Apple. And Google. Throw away your phone, use Linux on your PCs, free yourself.

[–] phlegmy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Crying about it being different isn’t baby duck syndrome; saying it’s better/worse compared to what you’re used to is.

People just don’t want to spend hundreds of hours re-learning things that already work for them.
It is objectively easier to stick with something you know than to learn something new, so that’s what most non-technical users do.

Pretty much everyone in IT should learn linux at some point though.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

If you are in IT I'd hope you know some version of Unix. Consumers I wouldn't expect them to know, they just want it to work and don't care about configurations and how it works.

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[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 22 points 6 hours ago

Notepad++ is way better anyway

[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 2 points 5 hours ago

Every PC I've ever owned has had some version of vi installed on it pretty much on day one of my owning it.

[–] HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone 20 points 10 hours ago

lol fuck that

[–] EuCaue@lemmy.ml 24 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Thanks god that I'm not using windows for 4 years now, and at least notepad++ exists.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 7 points 8 hours ago

Why would a bot be using notepad?

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[–] Zucca@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 hours ago

And around 20 years ago I did go all-in Linux.

[–] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 25 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Linux

End of conversation.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 15 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

I think that's the start of the conversation. Which Desktop Environment?

[–] EarlGrey@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I want a clean, advanced, well designed desktop and Im okay with redoing my work flow

Use Gnome

Gnome is cool but can it be slightly more Windows?

Use Cosmic (PopOS)

I want lots of customization, advanced features, and a traditional windows desktop metaphor

Use KDE

I want Windows and don't really care about customization

Use Cinnamon

Dude the Windows 9x look was fucking dope

Use Mate

Im installing this on a potato

Use XFCE

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Just try out multiple desktops in a live environment and see what you like before you commit. In fact, I recommend people to use a linux live session for several weeks or months before switching, just to get used to it.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Gnome is an opinionated desktop environment and that turns some people off. But it's bold enough to make some design decisions and have a limited scope. KDE tries to be another Windows alternative.

Of course, you could go with a tiling window manager but my vote goes to Gnome. I've had a very smooth experience on Gnome for the last couple years.

[–] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, Gnome is like the Apple of the Linux world. The devs have the same kind of “we know better than you do” mentality towards design. The issue tracker is a lot of “hey the OS won’t let me do [edge-case scenario that an OS should be able to do, but which most users won’t bother with]” followed by the devs going “Gnome isn’t designed to support [edge-case scenario]. Bug report closed.” Like the devs have a very “it’s not a bug; It’s a feature” mentality, and anyone who runs into that bug must be using the OS “wrong”.

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

we know better than you do” mentality towards design

And I agree with them. I think people should pick whatever desktop environment needs the least amount of customization for their needs. Keep it simple. If Gnome works out of the box, use it. If KDE works out of the box, use it.

[–] JaddedFauceet@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

I really like my KDE plasma

[–] mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

IMO:

  • want to show off? i3wm with gaps and rofi for menu launcher. Add it some transparency effects too.

  • want the MacOS style? Gnome. Default on a lot of distros.

  • want something stable? XFCE. Install and forget.

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[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 4 points 7 hours ago

They could've added this to wordpad if they didn't kill it.

[–] Geodad@lemm.ee 64 points 14 hours ago (17 children)

If you must use windows, Notepad++ is the way to go.

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[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 4 minutes ago) (1 children)

Good thing whenever I set up Windows, Notepad is one of the things I nuke, using Geany to replace it.

This is a bad sign if MS gets emboldened and starts paywalling basic OS functionality at some point in the future, though.

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