That's the biggest sticking point for me, and it's so big I'm not sure how liberals are ignoring it: we're seeing what happens right now when you're a friend to the US empire. How anyone can still advocate for being a friend to the US empire - outside of a desire to benefit from imperialism - astounds me.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 14 hours ago

Their takeaway is probably going to be "we should have been more of rabid unrepentant warmongerers and fielded US troops and instated no fly zone"

[–] SinoSoviet_Drip@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 17 hours ago

Taiwan should be taking notes