No one will accept a deal with the US for the next 20 years. Zelensky would get a better outcome if he made a pact with the actual Devil than with those bozzos in DC.
this post was submitted on 21 Feb 2025
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art of the deal
Step 1: capitulate
I say this as a US citizen, for AT LEAST the next four years, do not rely on the US for ANYTHING. Even if Trump says you can count on the US, even if he signs a contract in blood, it isn't worth even wiping your shit with.
He will give everything to Putin. That's the only thing you can count on.
It's time for a different superpower to pick up the reins or ascend. The EU can become that, but they really need to stop pretending the US is going to do anything for them.
Germany has relied on the USA since the BRD was founded. The left party (Die Linke) was and still is the only party in parliament that's against it.
China has been working toward that superpower status for some time. They're a lot more ambitious than the leaders in the EU and much more brazen.
I would say they’ve had superpower status since the 1950s, since the wars in Korea and Vietnam.
Nukes are cool and all but wouldn't a super power at least need some over seas power projection like aircraft carriers? I'd say China has been, and still is a regional power albeit rising
It owns too much of Africa to be a regional power. It's a superpower even if by a web of alliances/dependants rather than its own military projection
Seconded. The US can no longer be trusted. God speed, and I wish you the best.
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Y'all willing to give us a couple hand me down super carriers?
The rest of the world will pick up the torch, it's just going to be a long time before we can replace the US due to how large and how stable it's been in the past. No one really expects an ally to flip the table, of a game they're winning at, for the lulz.
This should be a wake up call to invest in your own carriers and military. Stop letting the US have the monopoly on firepower.
Probably 'extortion'. What has Ukraine done 'bad (ethically wrong) enough to merit blackmail'?
They dared to resist an imperial power. That seems to be the lesson trump wants to teach the world: Don't dare resist.
Seems like a fun way to have 20 new nuclear-armed countries by next year.
Ukraine should immediately start surface testing nuclear weapons.
Ukraine does not have nuclear weapons. They gave them up for peace...
No one's ever going to do that again. Trump has guaranteed a new era of nuclear proliferation.
That's why they have to test the new ones.
While the nuclear weapons where physically present on Ukraine soil, the country did not have operational control over them.
But they have the capability right? Truly if they wanted to have a nuke I'm positive they could build one.
The stuff you need to make this sort of thing isn't off the shelf, they would have to buy or build a shitload of these
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_centrifuge
and its not cheap, these are just maintenance cost (and upgrades)
https://www.statista.com/statistics/752531/nuclear-weapons-spending-worldwide-by-country/
Ukraine's gdp is around 170 billion, so it isn't really something they could afford to just crank up.
On a personal note, I hope we as a species never fire another one of these weapons ever again.