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[–] FMT99@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Bizarre that Trump JR is still polling ahead of the rest.

[–] A_A@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Yes and other pools deny this.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago

This is getting interesting

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Gotta love the NDP/Bloc popular vote vs seat projection. ffs.

That's a colloquialism. I do not love that difference. It's bullshit.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I will never forgive Trudeau for failing to deliver anything on proportional representation.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's representative of his time in the PMO: talk a good game, then fall apart on the details.

It's a pity, because he seemed so awesome at the beginning.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I agree. Weed legalization was excellent and his early policy choices made me optimistic.

I'd also say... he's never been an awful PM either. He's just standard corporate neoliberal. Probusiness to a regrettable degree and very slow to enact policy changes.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

"could have been worse" is a decent summary, but screwing up the carbon tax and bogarting election reform are both unforgivable sins in my books.

[–] puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Give that there’s been a few polls this week putting Carney as the election winner I’m a bit confused on the overall election likelihood still going to conservatives. Forgive the ignorance—I’ve just never paid this much attention to polls as I have in the last month or so.

[–] ahal@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Those were individual public opinion polls. Basically the raw data of a questionnaire which may have been targeting specific areas or demographics.

The 338 data is the best guess at who would win if the election were held today. It takes aggregated polls, ridings, demographics and historical data into account. So it is a much more sophisticated prediction.

However, it notably doesn't project into the future. That means the odds are not taking into account current trends, so Poilievre's drop from 100 to 75 is extremely significant. His odds will likely continue declining for some time. The question is where will it taper off and will there be a rebound before the actual election.

I'm also pretty sure from past memory, that the conservatives usually poll a lot better well before an election, but as it nears they drop off significantly.

No guarantee it's a drop to losing, but pretty sure the drop is a common trend.

[–] PhoenixAlpha@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

To add to this, I don't think the Carney polls are being factored into the 338 model, because they're "what if" polls, and don't reflect voter intentions today. If Carney wins we will probably see even more of a drop in the following weeks.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

Here’s an overview of how these models work:

Polling companies release polls, 338 aggregates them and assigns rankings to polls based on previous election outcomes. The idea is pollers who were more accurate get higher weighting, and less accurate polls get lower weightings.

Once polls are aggregated they’re used to predict the riding level outcomes.

They simulate dozens/hundreds of potential outcomes based on the polling probabilities.

High polling might not result in a favourable split in ridings in FPTP.

[–] A_A@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago

Sometimes I feel like 338 looks so distinctive that it speaks for itself. But you're right. These should always link to the original.

[–] Bublboi@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The oligarchs haven’t changed their message to push Carney yet. Once that happens the rest will follow.

The annexation has got them running scared, they remembered they're only the biggest fishes in a small pond next a lake overrun with septic outflow.