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Anti-patsoc action (lemmygrad.ml)

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[-] Anatolianin@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Related: newspaper criticizing not sufficient pace of ukrainization of trade unions in Berdyansk

[-] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 year ago

But ask a a lib and they'll tell you at length about how "USSR was erasing Ukrainian culture and had a policy of Russification"

[-] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago

In hindsight it the policy of Ukrainization was probably a mistake. The other коренизация policies were fine but this one ended up doing more harm than good. Still, they could not have known this at the time.

[-] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago

What about the Baltics? Caucasus republics? Central Asia? Even in hindsight it's hard to say for sure

[-] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Overall i think korenizatsia there was more justified as they dealt with clearly distinct nations whereas Ukraine was always a grey zone in this regard. It also seems to have been handled better in those cases, but i'm not an expert on this topic. I could be totally wrong, i'm eager to learn more if you have any insights.

I'll just say we have the benefit of hindsight, and if they knew how things would eventually turn out i think the Bolsheviks probably would have opted for an approach more similar to China's policy toward ethnic minorities. However, China is a unitary state and the USSR was a union of republics, very different systems and that fact alone restricts you in the kind of approach that you can take to such issues.

[-] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 year ago

Communism without borders when?

[-] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 1 year ago

After the global revolution, methinks

[-] MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 year ago

Soon as we fix the climate crisis. Time to get out the ice cubes!

[-] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago
[-] TankieReplyBot@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

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[-] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

I woulda passed to Stalin in the blunt rota stalin-smokin

[-] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Doesn't matter as to WHO it gets passed to so long as it always gets passed on the left-- and honestly, much love to Stalin but I'm hoping Ture or Seale are on my left.

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

The biggest mistake any good old school lefty does is die.

I assume Seale is Bobby Seale. Not sure who Ture is referring to. But in a better world, I'd like to think these guys would be reenacting the Grand Old Gang Andy Thomas painting. Just sitting around, shooting the shit, confident that they'd made the world a better place.

[-] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Kwame Ture; formerly Stokely Carmichael. You're on the nose with Bobby tho; and I think if I pick up my AI prompt experimentation schtick again, I might just try to see how well I can make stable diffusion fill that painting with civil rights icons instead of a gaggle of settlers lmao

[-] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago

When I first got into DemSoc stuff, I talked to a few Patsocs online, even knew one in person. It was always good talking about Unions and large corporations and stuff, Capatalism 101 basically, and they were even cool with anti-war stuff, but if you prod a little further there’s not much more substance, a lot of wishy-washy opinions on trans people or Black Liberation stuff. To be clear, they were rarely (except a few online) against these groups outright, but usually they would be like “comms should focus on what’s more important before focusing on social issues.” Which WOULD make sense if the social issues currently existing were just “what’s your favorite food?” “What’s your preferred method of pronouncing the word Carribean?” It’s “should women be allowed bodily autonomy?” “Should White Supremacy be allowed in Police Forces?” “Should Trans people be allowed to EXIST?” Like if you don’t care about these issues, then you aren’t really a communist, you’re just pissed at your boss

[-] MxGonnaGiveItToYa@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 year ago

Where did Stalin say this? I want to read it.

[-] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 year ago

The quote is from Marxism and the National Question, the very work the patsocs misuse to justify their characterization of some oppressed nations as legitimate.

[-] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Pro Tip: read from right to left

[-] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago

For the top part only, but yeah. I didn’t feel like reversing all the top parts of my image.

[-] M68040@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Honestly I wonder what the point of revolution would be if you were gonna go out of your way to not just preserve all the most damning qualities of existing society, but further entrench them.

I got into radical politics in hopes of finding a world completely unlike this one dammit

[-] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Like the social democrats they just want white people to have healthcare, but they’re more larpey about it.

Edit: just heard a relevant quote:

What is to be done? Nothing more than to destroy the present form of civilization. -Gramsci

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago

"National self-determination? That's ethnic cleansing!" - vaushites

[-] D61@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago
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