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Donald Trump reiterated his claim that Canada would be better as the U.S.’s 51st state, citing trade imbalances and lower taxes.

He also announced new 25% tariffs on steel and aluminum imports, including from Canada, despite a recent 30-day reprieve.

Canadian PM Justin Trudeau has not formally responded, but a government source said they await official confirmation.

Trump criticized Canada’s defense spending and border security, despite recent Canadian commitments.

Canada previously retaliated against similar tariffs in 2018 before a 2019 trade deal resolved the dispute.

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[–] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 33 points 23 hours ago (6 children)

He's currently trying to get a 51st state (Canada would need to be at least 6 or more, in all honesty), but it looks like he's at risk of losing some states from where I'm sitting.

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 14 points 20 hours ago

You will be enslaved cherishingly.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 209 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (29 children)

Most of us would rather die than ever become an American. Want a good example of the mood in Canada summed up against our 'ally to the south' as of late? Well let me just personally put it this way. You, the United States, are a fucking joke.

To quote an author, Stephen Marche, who spoke on the CBC here in Canada recently... The bold is mine but the emphasis really should be placed there anyway.

They've [The US] come off of 70 years of failed wars of occuption. One thing you have to understand about these comments is that they come from a profound weakness that America is really unfamiliar with. And Canada is unfamiliar with America being this weak. They can't hold Baghdad, I'm not sure why they think they can hold Montreal. But they're also being kicked out of Niger and you know they are weaker than they've ever been in a lot of ways. They are extremely fragile as a country. They have absolutely no solidarity, they have absolutely no unity. They are in the middle of dismantling their administrative state and war is a is a test, fundamentally, of the strength of the administrative state. So I think you should take this about as seriously as you would take the ramblings of a crack addict on the subway. I.e, you pay attention to it and get out of the way and you do what you can but, you know, this is not something to be treated like an actual... this is not something to be thought about. It's just the ramblings of lunacy.

[...]

I think he's [Trump] actually managed to make Canadians patriotic for the first time since I can remember. You have to say, he's the president of the United States but the United States is crumbling. Institutions are falling apart and 'Who the United States is at this moment'... that's not a meaningful phrase. You have to ask yourself which America are you talking about, which institutions are you talking about, because they are not under the guidance of anyone, right?

[...]

All he [Trump] can do is destroy. The American stock market is falling, even the threat of this [tarrifs on Canadian goods] has caused inflation to raise it's head. The American people fired everyone who has caused gas prices to rise almost immediately. They can tolerate almost anything from their political class. War crimes, whatever, but increase gas prices they go crazy for. So it's just very important to understand that this is spoken from a position of profound weakness.

[...]

America has never been an uglier place to become a part of. I mean who would wanna be American at this point in history. They're about to start killing each other. There is no question that there is a Canadian rejection of American values, the American government and Amreica itself. Why wouldn't you reject these people? They're awful.

Watch it for yourself here.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I disagree with only one point there: while America as a political entity is like a crazy crackhead, it's like a very heavily armed crazy crackhead. Treat the prospect of being invaded by the US the same way Ukrainians treated the prospect of being invaded by Russia. Hope for the best but prepare for the worst, because the US military is really good at wrecking whole countries even if it sucks at occupying them.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

And are they just going to start shooting normal people at random? Canadians look exactly and sound exactly like America. The US Military is really good at wrecking a country but who cares when we can cross a border you can't defend, mingle perfectly and start guerilla attacks against major infrastructure?

This war is not just tanks vs planes and ships vs submarines. This would end violently for America.

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[–] pageflight@lemmy.world 102 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What a deservedly scathing review of the US of A.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 67 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

And of most of the people. That "Why wouldn't you reject these people. They're awful." line is based on the fact that a majority of Americans allowed Trump to become elected. Either through actively voting for him or whatever excuse they want to use for not voting at all against outright fascism. First time he was elected an argument could be made that the people who didn't vote or who voted for him were misled. At this point? It just became abundantly clear that our neighbors to the south genuinely don't seem to care about anything or harbor a deep amount of hatred or ignorance within themselves.

Review should have gone a bit harder in my opinion. It isn't just the government or the country itself that is an embarassment. Most of the people are too.

And let me be abundantly clear. If whoever is reading this voted for anyone other than Kamala, or did not vote at all, yes. You're the awful people we're talking about. You should really hate yourself as much as we hate you.

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[–] ALilOff@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Anyone making “thanks trump” stickers for when our gas prices go through the roof and stick it at gas stations like they did with Biden

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The problem with “thanks” ones is if they ever do go down…

Best to have “they’re up because of me” perhaps or something similar

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[–] meowmeowbeanz@sh.itjust.works 62 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The 51st state? Hard pass. Canada’s healthcare system alone would collapse under the weight of your insulin price gouging. Cherished state? More like a hostile takeover by a country that thinks avocado toast is a personality trait.

Those 25% tariffs? Cute. We survived your 2018 tantrum—maple syrup exports outlived your presidency. Funny how “trade imbalances” vanish when your golf resorts rely on Canadian lumber.

Defense spending critiques from a guy who tried to lease Alaska back to Russia? Bold move. Our border’s secure enough to keep your conspiracy theorists from storming Parliament Hill.

Stay mad about the poutine tariffs, though.

[–] underfreyja@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Haha, I want a t-shirt that says : Stay mad about the poutine tarrifs 😂

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[–] eronth@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (21 children)

This is going to be the weirdest part of any history book. People reading and trying to understand why the US suddenly turned on and invaded their close ally of Canada in a failed annexation attempt immediately after watching Russia struggle a similar (though less surprising) annexation of Ukraine, which the US helped fight against.

[–] AgentRocket@feddit.org 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not that weird, since we've had similar things happen in Europe in the 1930s. I'm mostly wondering, what's going to be Canada's Stalingrad.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 9 points 20 hours ago

Fort Erie.

Not even going to lie, the Great Lakes will quickly become Canadian territory if Trump tries to make serious on his claims. Most of the folk in my region love Canadians more than we do people in other states.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Hmm probably hamilton. A lot of steel mills. If they come up through st Catherines, and hang a Reich to Toronto they would have to go through hamilton first.

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[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

Well… there you go Canada. You’ll be cherished. You’ve no reason not to now. So… what’s the holdup?

(Obligatory /s)

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 76 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

An invasion of Canada would result in so many Americans defecting and fighting for Canada or not cooperating and probably a Civil War when the west coast states (and possibly New England) secede. I imagine the military leadership would sooner stage a coup than cooperate and invade/occupy Canada. Plus, the entire world would side with Canada.

It’s the ramblings of a senile buffoon. There’s absolutely no one else calling for this (or invading Greenland/Panama) and no support from 80% of Americans — and close to 100% with people of fighting age. Even most MAGA idiots are isolationists.

And don’t forget, basically every major U.S. city is extremely blue. When you look at a red state/blue state map, remember that it’s actually an urban/rural divide. Port cities are especially blue. (Look at Louisiana for an example. A deep red state but Orleans Parish went 82% for Harris/Walz. Good luck winning any war with 90% of the port cities in full revolt.)

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

It's horrifying that I could see Greenland being his Poland and Canada being his France.

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[–] MonsterMonster@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I'm amazed at how quickly the US has come close to being on the brink of becoming a rogue state.

[–] TheBrideWoreCrimson@sopuli.xyz 7 points 18 hours ago

At this point, I'm seriously wondering what the Reichstag fire will be that will prompt the US to conjure up an "enemy without," steamroll several sovereign countries and blockade the Mediterranean and most of the Atlantic.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 22 points 1 day ago

The US has been a rogue state for decades. Just that they used to be smart enough to keep some countries in the empire aligned without direct military force.

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 82 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Cherished my ass. You've done nothing but disrespect them since you were elected. The only thing you want is their resources so you can hoard a few 100 mil before you kick the bucket in a few years. Which I find completely ridiculous because it's not like you get to take money into the afterlife, if there even is one.

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[–] skankhunt42@lemmy.ca 57 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm so tired of this shit.

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