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[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Whoever taught liberals that word, I hope they have diarrhea forever.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 months ago

That would probably be some ultras, they are very desperate to be recognized by liberals as "true communists" unlike those "fake authoritarians". Liberals of course don't give a shit and immediately labeled ultras as tankies as well.

[–] __nobodynowhere@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (81 children)

I'm not into that authoritarian stuff. Worshipping a fascist authoritarian state is not a leftist make.

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[–] Kwakigra@beehaw.org 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

From Wikipedia:

The term "tankie" was originally used by dissident Marxist–Leninists to describe members of the Communist Party of Great Britain (CPGB) who followed the party line of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU). Specifically, it was used to distinguish party members who spoke out in defence of the Soviet use of tanks to suppress the Hungarian Revolution of 1956 and the 1968 Prague Spring, or who more broadly adhered to pro-Soviet positions.

I've never understood why there is any confusion over the word "tankie." It applies to the pro-cop left. If a leftist believes that it's necessary for cops to beat minorities and dissidents into submission for their society to function, they're tankies. If they approach leftism in a way that does not involve state violence against civilians to enforce those ideas, they're not tankies. To me there isn't a lot of gray area.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

I don't think your second paragraph follows from the first. The cited revolts were largely fascist in origin, for example the Hungarian revolt had the fascists lynching Soviet Officials and freeing Nazis from prison in order to assist with lynching Soviet Officials. Calling them "dissidents" or pretending they were ethnic minorities is ridiculous. Not answering fascists lynchings with violence would be incredibly terrible.

The "rebels" were trained and supplied by MI6, and had marked the doors of Jews and Communists for extermination.

Really curious what a "non-tankie" would recommend doing in such a situation. Giving the Nazis that killed hundreds of people flowers?

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