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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 106 points 3 days ago (7 children)

The culture shift is stark sometimes when you watch old stuff.

On the other hand, don't let them turn that into an excuse. You know what dealt with trans rights in a pretty honest, raw, and understanding way, in the mid 1980s? Fucking Hill Street Blues. One of the cops gets together with a woman, he's happy to be with her, and then the other cops start giving him hell for it because she used to be a man. He gets disgusted and angry, goes over to her place, and she lectures him about it and sets him straight, tells him to figure out if he wants to be with her, but don't try to turn who I am into some kind of thing I did to you, or make me feel bad about it. He sort of accepts it, because she clearly has a point, and that's the end of the episode.

Hill Street Blues, man.

[–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Watched Ace Ventura a few years ago for the first time since I was a kid. I remembered the whole trans reveal thing. Never put together as a kid they were implying that it was part of that character being mentally ill and completely forgot about Ace and the cops freaking out after finding out.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Yeah. It's absolutely nuts.

In the 60s, if you were a man in a movie, you could hit women if they were getting crazy, to set them straight.

In the 80s, the heroes of movies could commit rape (Revenge of the Nerds) or child molestation (Indiana Jones) and still be the heroes of the movies.

In the 90s, the simple fact of a character being gay, or God forbid trans, was its own comedic element, without anything additional needing to be added.

Things have changed. Like changed a lot.

I like retrospective threads like this. Puts things in perspective. Growing up under conditions like that, it would have been weird if I hadn't repressed my gender identity. Pity things couldn't have changed earlier, and let me realize sooner.

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[–] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Yeah, I had a pretty sheltered childhood because I remember lots of good shows with a lot less of those issues. I watched a lot of sci-fi though, which IME tends to be a bit more forward-thinking. Not super surprising if you think about it

Doctor who had every type of queer back in the mid-late 2000s. From a trans "last human" to lesbian aliens

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

There's still weird shit on tv. For obvious reasons, I haven't seen much Big Bang Theory, but that show has some weird, casual sexism.

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[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That came about partly because homosexuality in the US was legalized on June 26, 2003. Without the fear of raids, people started talking more openly about sexuality and the tide was turning slowly more positive that movies and TV shows that joined the conversation weren't immediately shut down.

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[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Hell the 2000's were bad - but it was just an extension to decades, if not centuries of homophobia. Watch the first 5 minutes of Eddie Murphy's RAW to see what was socially acceptable to say in the late 70's, early 80's.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 4 points 2 days ago

In an effort to show my wife the things I loved as a kid, I put on Eddie Murphy's stand up. The intro was brutal.

After about 15 minutes, she asked me if we can stop watching.

[–] dumples@midwest.social 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I been watching some movies and TV shows from the early 2000s as a nostalgia trip with my wife and man there were some terrible lessons. We talked about the homophobia and transphobia but the misogyny, body image and sexualization of teens. The skin women being called fat with the fashion that only looked good on thin thin thin women. The insistence that there was nothing worse than being a virgin. (While the schools were doing an abstinence only education BTW). The countdown clocks to when every female celebrity turned 18 everywhere. It's surreal to think that message was everywhere.

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[–] Gork@lemm.ee 93 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Metrosexual 2033, Metrosexual Last Light, and Metrosexual Exodus

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

And the VR title, Metrosexual Awakening

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[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 48 points 3 days ago

I used to get called gay because I rolled the sleeves up on my shirt. Also because I worked with a gay guy and occasionally had lunch with him, maybe half a dozen times a year. The odd thing is that I had a girlfriend (same one 22 years later) who these idiots knew about.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

The 2000s were about as homophobic as the 90s, 80s, 70s, etc. Everything was just more out of the closet then.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 48 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Wait, shorts were gay? Does that include cargo shorts? Cuz there were a lot of cargo shorts at the time.

Source: used to wear cargo shorts back then. I still do, but I used to too.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Can't even wear my chartreuse short-shorts with JUICY printed on the butt without people thinking I'm gay

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[–] jdeath@lemm.ee 29 points 3 days ago (17 children)

the shorts part makes no sense. everyone wears shorts

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[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Theres a southpark episode about this.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 5 points 2 days ago

This is an episode from my favorite podcast to listen to on road trips, Decoder Ring. https://open.spotify.com/episode/73XOUMOeqkFWYrCcaRMJqd This episode is about the term metrosexual.

I love this podcast. They also did an episode on truck nutz! It's just very very deep dives on random pop culture topics. And it's good journalism too, not just the C-list YouTube Video Essayist summarize-the-wikipedia-article type of stuff.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 58 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

When I was growing up “f!!!ot” wasn’t even seen as a cuss word, it was just a burn you called your friends all the time. We didn’t really think about it until I was 16 and one of our friends came out as gay. My whole friend group kind of had it click at the same time that 1. We didn’t care that he was gay and 2. It was probably pretty fucking rude to call everything we didn’t like “g!y” and call eachother “f!g” as an insult. I think that realization happened for a lot of people who had gay friends in my generation, and it’s part of what helped lead to the level of acceptance and support the LGBT community has now.

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[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 56 points 3 days ago

Asian dude who went to high school in the 90s.

We were constantly called metro or straight up gay because we dressed like BTS before BTS was born.

But they called us that in a hateful way.

Ya 90s high school sucked for minorities.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 51 points 3 days ago

Me in the 2000s: No lotion, no conditioner, no umbrella, no scarf. Just ashy skin, nasty hair, and choking on the rain and cold.

Not because I was afraid of being made fun of, but because I was stupid and gross.

You young GenZ homies knowing how to groom are the real champs.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago
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