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    I love how pacman/libalpm database is just directories with tiny little files, and it’s faster in resolving dependencies than mostly anything else

    [–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 65 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    If file systems are databases, then does that mean storing a sqlite db on a HDD is database inception?

    [–] drq@mastodon.ml 48 points 1 week ago (6 children)
    [–] mogoh@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    How do you post from mastodon to lemmy?

    [–] drq@mastodon.ml 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

    @mogoh I just mentioned the group and it worked!

    The way it's supposed to be!

    I'm so happy for this omfgrotflolcopter

    @linuxmemes

    [–] lukewarm_ozone@lemmy.today 12 points 1 week ago

    Oh, that's really cool. I hope there's more linkage between the twitter-like and reddit-like islands of the fediverse in the future; I'm somewhat interested in reading the former but it seems to be complicated to actually get federation with it.

    [–] mogoh@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

    wow, that's simple! Thx!

    [–] vint@mastodon.ml 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    @drq @mogoh

    Do you mean just mentioning the group anywhere in the post finally works? Before, I had to mention it on first line. That's some progress.

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    [–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 week ago

    Federation.

    Wait till you get a comment from threads. I've only had it happen once and it made me feel dirty.

    @mogoh AFAIK, I should mention @linuxmemes handle to make the comment visible inside the original Lemmy thread.
    @drq

    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
    [–] drq@mastodon.ml 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

    @30p87 Okay, looks like we *finally* have *actual* groups in Fedi that are compatible across the board.

    I've been waiting for this for so long, I've almost given up all hope.

    @linuxmemes

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    [–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    everything is a file including a filesystem*

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    * including databases

    [–] TheBat@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    For example, a directory full of spreadsheets.

    Somewhere, a sysadmin is pulling his hair out

    [–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Tbh still preferred to that asshat who rolls out an MS Access "app"

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    [–] fnrir@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

    or CSV files

    [–] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 33 points 1 week ago

    git repo is blockchain

    [–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    and anuses are vaginas, as long as you treat them as one.

    [–] coacoamelky@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago

    As a man of science I prefer to test every theory.

    [–] not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    the anus isnt self lubricating :(

    https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/body/24784-anus-function

    Muscles, nerves and mucous membranes in your anus

    It is though...

    [–] superkret@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago

    It can be if you're lactose intolerant.

    [–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 21 points 1 week ago

    You're right! Ill just store all this data as static json files in a directory then

    [–] mlg@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

    Didn't someone actually try making SQL as a filesystem and it ended up being something like 50 times slower than ZFS after they applied a ton of optimizations?

    Not as a serious project, but more like a joke to see what would actually happen.

    [–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    And files are streams. 🎡 Islands in the stream. 🎡

    [–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 week ago

    🎡 That is what we awk 🎡

    [–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    They’re more like blob storage.

    Blob storage usually uses a FS back end so it’s more like blob storage is like a file system

    [–] renzev@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Just fucking putting data into json files in a folder is so much easier than databases. Sure, databases are faster and give you access to powerful SQL queries. But if you're just making something small and simple, you don't need those things. Save yourself the hassle and just use the filesystem.

    Or use minio/s3, which can either be the best or the worst of both worlds depending on your usecase.

    [–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    The trouble is, filesystems don't have ACID. The first time you have a power loss during a write, your data will get corrupted.

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    [–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    It also makes you re-implement a database, but worse.

    Use a JSON file if you just need to serialize/deserialize some data. Use SQLite or a DB server if you need more. Your own code will never match the quality of SQLite.

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    [–] mugdad1@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    welcome to lemmy im new also

    [–] drq@mastodon.ml 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)
    [–] mugdad1@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    wtf how do you mix between lemmy and mastdon i also have account there but i didn't thought that the content will be here also so please explain

    [–] drq@mastodon.ml 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    @mugdad1 I don't mix, I'm on Mastodon. I just mentioned @linuxmemes in op-post et voila! Neat, huh?

    [–] superkret@feddit.org 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    That's what federation is all about.

    [–] mugdad1@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

    ok tried mentioning my self their it worked i didn"t knew about that yes i wondered how they are mixed sometimes thanks man

    [–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

    Welcome to the lovely world of the Fediverse! Mastodon and Lemmy, among many other kinds of software, both run on ActivityPub. This means that even if the servers aren't both running Lemmy or Mastodon, they still speak the same language and can therefore understand the content of each other's posts (think of it as email, gmail.com can still send and receive mail to outlook.com). Other examples of AcitvityPub software are Misskey, Mbin, Friendica, Pixelfed, Loops, Piefed, PeerTube and many others that I haven't learned about yet. While they theoretically can all fetch and present posts from each other, due to the choices that each developer makes while designing their software, it might not be very possible to get every post from every software. For example, Mastodon is all about following people, and Lemmy about following communities. Even though Mastodon is able to follow Lemmy communities, Lemmy has (as of writing) no function to follow people (yet).

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    [–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 week ago

    That's less the Unix way and more the BeOS way.

    [–] foxido@social.cutie.team 8 points 1 week ago
    [–] addie@feddit.uk 7 points 1 week ago

    Filesystem-as-a-db is why MongoDB is webscale. You just turn it on and it scales right up.

    [–] Redacted@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

    The list of reasons filesystems are not databases is a database.

    [–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Every Homestuck fan already knows this.

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    [–] th3rdsergeevich@mastodon.ml 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    @drq Come on, that can't be your F I R S T post.
    @linuxmemes

    [–] drq@mastodon.ml 9 points 1 week ago

    @th3rdsergeevich It is my first op-post on lemmy, that's right.

    @linuxmemes

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Honestly that's basically what CephFS is

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    [–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

    And the worst FAT32

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