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    [–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 64 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    If file systems are databases, then does that mean storing a sqlite db on a HDD is database inception?

    [–] drq@mastodon.ml 47 points 6 days ago (6 children)
    [–] mogoh@lemmy.ml 18 points 6 days ago (3 children)

    How do you post from mastodon to lemmy?

    [–] drq@mastodon.ml 45 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

    @mogoh I just mentioned the group and it worked!

    The way it's supposed to be!

    I'm so happy for this omfgrotflolcopter

    @linuxmemes

    [–] lukewarm_ozone@lemmy.today 11 points 6 days ago

    Oh, that's really cool. I hope there's more linkage between the twitter-like and reddit-like islands of the fediverse in the future; I'm somewhat interested in reading the former but it seems to be complicated to actually get federation with it.

    [–] mogoh@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 days ago

    wow, that's simple! Thx!

    [–] vint@mastodon.ml 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

    @drq @mogoh

    Do you mean just mentioning the group anywhere in the post finally works? Before, I had to mention it on first line. That's some progress.

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    [–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 6 days ago

    Federation.

    Wait till you get a comment from threads. I've only had it happen once and it made me feel dirty.

    @mogoh AFAIK, I should mention @linuxmemes handle to make the comment visible inside the original Lemmy thread.
    @drq

    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)
    [–] drq@mastodon.ml 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

    @30p87 Okay, looks like we *finally* have *actual* groups in Fedi that are compatible across the board.

    I've been waiting for this for so long, I've almost given up all hope.

    @linuxmemes

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    [–] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 31 points 6 days ago

    git repo is blockchain

    [–] mlg@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago

    Didn't someone actually try making SQL as a filesystem and it ended up being something like 50 times slower than ZFS after they applied a ton of optimizations?

    Not as a serious project, but more like a joke to see what would actually happen.

    [–] TheBat@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    For example, a directory full of spreadsheets.

    Somewhere, a sysadmin is pulling his hair out

    [–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Tbh still preferred to that asshat who rolls out an MS Access "app"

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    [–] fnrir@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

    or CSV files

    [–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 35 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

    everything is a file including a filesystem*

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    * including databases

    [–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 6 days ago (3 children)

    and anuses are vaginas, as long as you treat them as one.

    [–] coacoamelky@lemm.ee 16 points 6 days ago

    As a man of science I prefer to test every theory.

    [–] not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    the anus isnt self lubricating :(

    https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/body/24784-anus-function

    Muscles, nerves and mucous membranes in your anus

    It is though...

    [–] superkret@feddit.org 4 points 5 days ago

    It can be if you're lactose intolerant.

    [–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 21 points 6 days ago

    You're right! Ill just store all this data as static json files in a directory then

    [–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    They’re more like blob storage.

    Blob storage usually uses a FS back end so it’s more like blob storage is like a file system

    [–] renzev@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (3 children)

    Just fucking putting data into json files in a folder is so much easier than databases. Sure, databases are faster and give you access to powerful SQL queries. But if you're just making something small and simple, you don't need those things. Save yourself the hassle and just use the filesystem.

    Or use minio/s3, which can either be the best or the worst of both worlds depending on your usecase.

    [–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    The trouble is, filesystems don't have ACID. The first time you have a power loss during a write, your data will get corrupted.

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    [–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    It also makes you re-implement a database, but worse.

    Use a JSON file if you just need to serialize/deserialize some data. Use SQLite or a DB server if you need more. Your own code will never match the quality of SQLite.

    [–] seliaste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    Sqlite is the best in most cases

    [–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 days ago

    Made a bash script using sqlite recently to automate processing some data. Best part is it terrifies everyone else at work and no one else wants to touch it because it's on Linux and none of them have used it before.

    [–] a2part2@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 days ago

    Duckdb can query them with SQL like they are in a database. Csv, tsv, parquet also. You can even connect to and query postures and cloud storage also

    [–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    And files are streams. 🎡 Islands in the stream. 🎡

    [–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 6 days ago

    🎡 That is what we awk 🎡

    [–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 6 days ago

    That's less the Unix way and more the BeOS way.

    I love how pacman/libalpm database is just directories with tiny little files, and it’s faster in resolving dependencies than mostly anything else

    [–] mugdad1@lemm.ee 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    welcome to lemmy im new also

    [–] drq@mastodon.ml 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)
    [–] mugdad1@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago (4 children)

    wtf how do you mix between lemmy and mastdon i also have account there but i didn't thought that the content will be here also so please explain

    [–] drq@mastodon.ml 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

    @mugdad1 I don't mix, I'm on Mastodon. I just mentioned @linuxmemes in op-post et voila! Neat, huh?

    [–] superkret@feddit.org 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    That's what federation is all about.

    [–] mugdad1@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago

    ok tried mentioning my self their it worked i didn"t knew about that yes i wondered how they are mixed sometimes thanks man

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    [–] addie@feddit.uk 7 points 6 days ago

    Filesystem-as-a-db is why MongoDB is webscale. You just turn it on and it scales right up.

    [–] foxido@social.cutie.team 8 points 6 days ago
    [–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (3 children)

    Every Homestuck fan already knows this.

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    [–] Redacted@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

    The list of reasons filesystems are not databases is a database.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    Honestly that's basically what CephFS is

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    [–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

    And the worst FAT32

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