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a drawing of a person wearing a balaclava and holding a gun with the text "all my homies hate tankies" :3

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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I love my anarchist comrades and I love my communist comrades. I hate seeing memes like this. May we all be lucky enough to argue in the midst of a real revolution. Until then, focus on the fucking fascists.

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Unity above all else. Absolutely. However Tankie rhetoric in good faith or from an agent provocateur is something that needs to be addressed directly. Any power structure without egalitarian praxis is antithetical to the movement. Communism and Anarchism are very similar to the point where there are anarcho communists.

I want to make sure that there is space for us to figure out self governance immediately after the revolution. I don't want to rely on a nascent "interim" government to hand it down to me.

https://viewpointmag.com/2018/06/11/intercommunalism-the-late-theorizations-of-huey-p-newton-chief-theoretician-of-the-black-panther-party/#f+9945+1+6

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

Anarcho communism just makes sense. If communism is a moneyless, classless, stateless society, is it not by default anarchist as well?

And I’m not referring to any of the so called “communist” countries because they’re all variations of socialist and not communist. They all have a state.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

I'm someone with a leg in both tendencies, as it were. I purposely avoid getting too into the theory weeds, in favor of interacting with actual people. I see the word "tankie" used veeerrryyy liberally lately, and it feels like it doesn't signify very much. Respectfully, thinking about "immediately after the revolution" is getting way ahead of yourself, at least in relation to who you work with today.

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Digging the anti-corporate vibes of a Games Workshop Chaos Star.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Y’all really get weirdly triggered when someone says “we shouldn’t be arming Nazis.” Why is that?

[–] Jean_le_Flambeur@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Most communists/socialists arent tankies (even if .ml tries really hard to convince everyone otherwise) but identify with hammer and sickle too :(

But fk tankies, I'm with you on that

[–] riwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

i agree. i hope anti-authoritarians dont feel targeted. i personally would not call myself a communist or use hammer and sickle, because they are too charged but they can definitely represent things i can stand behind.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just tag anyone getting upset in the comments. I've already seen 2 people I've previously tagged as tankies.

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I kinda do, that's why I wrote, but no hard feelings :)

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago

All my homies agree, I really look good in black, fool.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (9 children)

I remember a time when tankies were just the militant leftists that would literally and physically punch nazis. That was pretty much the only qualification required, anarchist or communist: if you were willing to do violence on a nazi you were the tankie and it didn't require some stance on NATO geopolitics.

[–] riwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ig the word changed meaning then :3

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Absolutely co-opted, yeah.

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[–] gravityowl@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Should I work with Marxist-Leninists?

If you're organising at work or around housing issues, the people you work with are not going to all have the same politics at you, and your opinions on the July 1918 uprising of Left Socialist Revolutionaries after their expulsion from the Bolshevik government are not relevant to that situation. Yes, really, no-one gives a shit. You're relating to each other as workers in that situation, not as representatives of a political niche, at least we hope not.

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If there are real political and organisational disagreements, it's better to be open about them than gloss over them, and retain some independence.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

if they'll help hold a barricade idgaf

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[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

I don’t agree with the vision of an authoritarian state, even as a step towards something else, but my tankie friends, for example those in PSL, are doing a ton of good on the ground by organizing and funding busses to prison for the families of prisoners, helping support tenant unions, providing support for immigrants in the form of legal representation, continuously organizing against police injustices (especially in cases involving disabled, black, or queer people), and other issues that might arise in their locale. I respect the people continuously putting themselves and their resources on the line for others. I would be much quicker to lend disrespect to those that only talk and do nothing.

Are they doing this to support the organization of a politburo and a direct line of authority from a single charismatic leader at the top? Do they make apoligistic statements for human injustices and advocate for the expansion of borders through war?

Otherwise they're just communists doing rad communist shit and you should labor to help them organize and shoulder their burdens.

I think there is a general misconception of communists especially here in the US and it's been a problem in leftist circles for a while.

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[–] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I d l t n a t a p w t t a n h . S y a , a I t o o n a h ?

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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Peace, Justice, and Anarchy >:3

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

While not an anarchist, i approve this message.

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