Privacy
A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.
Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
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It is extremely unlikely that there would be a motivated enough attacker to target you. And if someone is not targeting you, but just attacking everyone in range, it's unlikely the files you are transferring are of any value to them.
You can't be too sure. Last thing anyone wants is someone to get ahold of their legendary Pepes.
Nobody sane is transferring legendary pepes unencrypted over Bluetooth. I use an encrypted USB delivered by courier with key provided upon proof of receipt (and payment, of course). Other than that they stay on an airgapped machine or cold storage.
It’s actually entirely horse shit.
Only the very newest products that are on the latest standard are secure.
It all look secure and sounds secure and feels secure with all the encryption….
But about 2 years ago there was a downgrade attack that was proven to affect basically everything.
Bluetooth security might as well be a flashing neon sign of your data.
Now it’s not quite that simple and some people have updated their devices etc……
But almost nobody actually has done that because Bluetooth devices are “fire and forget”
I mean when’s the last time you updated the firmware on your headphones or keyboard?
Mostly “never”
Heads up, I know you said "without additional apps," but check out KDEconnect, it's pretty sweet.
No, thanks:
It uses a WebRTC peer-to-peer connection. WebRTC needs a signaling server that is only used to establish a connection. The server is not involved in the file transfer.
If your devices are paired and behind a NAT, the PairDrop TURN Server is used to route your files and messages.
What's so bad about servers?
Both are open source.
The signaling server just sees the IPs of your devices.
The turn server sees only locally encrypted files.
I'd rather not upload my files on remote servers. No matter if open source or no
The file does not get uploaded to remote servers. It passes through them, fully encrypted, and the server does not have the keys to decrypt your files.
If it passes through, that means it is present on the server's storage, even if for a short period of time
All your data and traffic passes through various routers and servers (both of which are computers and have memory) while you do anything on the internet (You can find the list of such computers by doing a traceroute). But because it is end to end encrypted - you don't care.
this is why i have developed my own cloud solution. a file server that i host myself
My concern is has more to do with metadata, wich can be collected. If there's a local alternative or a self-hosted one for something, I'm more inclined to use these than something that depends on a third party.
You can selfhost PairDrop though. Including the signaling and turn server. It's open source.
Ok, that's great!
It is encrypted, but the security of the encryption varies between implementations (some have been found to generate keys insecurely or screw up session management, etc). For most modern devices it's decent, as long as you're not actively targeted by some kind of intel agency
How can you send files over bluetooth when you are not home? You are confusing it with something else. Bluetooth has a 10 meter radius. Also, it is not secure at all, if you send important files and suspect that someone might be eavesdropping within 10 meters, don't use it