Freetube and GrayJay
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I've had a good experience with GrayJay. It's a bit young and missing features but it's never broken for me.
Btw, they also have a desktop app, but it’s currently in beta.
FreeTube is more stable for desktop.
I've been using their GrayJay desktop app, and I've enjoyed it so far.
I haven't checked out FreeTube but maybe this is the push I need.
At this point we should just start torrenting YouTube. Like fuck YouTube.
At this point we should just ditch YouTube entirely, but alas.
I kinda assumed Vimeo would step up its social aspects when YouTube started ratcheting up its bullshit. Still waiting.
At this point we should just ditch YouTube entirely, but alas.
YouTube is great for downloading movie rips. They're out there if you know where to look. When you download a movie on YouTube, you're legally in the clear: Google is doing the copyright infringement. That's one big advantage over torrents.
Yeah, but you can get movie rips off other places like archive.org. Also, in the US at least there's not much of a penalty for consuming pirated content, only if you distribute it. The chance of that even happening is greatly reduced if you use a VPN.
Well PeerTube is p2p like torrents are (but with a simple streaming web ui), so basically just run PeerTube
I've been avoiding Youtube content altogether, I ditched it completely.
However, it seems like yt-dlp does the job even when all Indivious instances are being blocked.
Reject inefficient video data transfer. Return to kb sized articles you can analyze at your own pace.
Sometimes (although rarely) I watch some videos on Odyssee. I try to avoid it too, because of some of its downsides, but it's better than YouTube because it has no ads, no need for login to watch, and videos can be easily downloaded without complains from the platform.
However, yeah, texts are way better. Internet used to be textual. Text allows for personal annotations, just like the grand old book annotations.
Close the door, turn off the lights, wear earbuds, pull a duvet over your head. Works every time. Might look a bit suspicious, but at least it's private.
Seriously though, it's getting pretty bad. I'm currently shifting my video watching habits away from YT. I have a feeling that sooner rather than later I may have to quit YT completely.
There are several way, honestly. For Android, there's NewPipe. The app itself fetches the YouTube data. For PC, there are similar applications that do the same such FreeTube. Those are the solutions I recommend.
If you're one of those, you can also host your own Invidious and/or Piped instances. But I like NewPipe and FeeTube better.
I've used freetube for a while and it seems like it's expierencing the same issues since I've been getting a lot of error messages lately.
Really? It's been working just fine for me.
Just firefox with ublock origin.
i just search it on dukdukgo and use their viewer
You can still use yt-dlp with most of the invidious instances that are still up, but not displaying the video for some reason. Just copy the URL and use it with yt-dlp from the command line. All still works, sponsor block and all.
On my android phone I use either invidious with seal(yt-dlp wrapper app) or tubular (fork of newpipe with sponsor block).
Freetube has an option to watch videos in a external viewer. I set it to be MPV which I set it to use yt-dlp to download which allows me to customize many things like video and audio quality, subtitles, equalize audio, etc. No need to copy and use the command line.
seconding this
Freetube and Grayjay. Grayjay has a desktop app now.
Downside is that you'll have to regularly delete all the videos you've downloaded.
Use yt-dlp URL -o - | mpv - This way the video goes directly to mpv without using the disk, avoiding the need to delete. It should work with other viewers as well.
I download the videos I want to watch with yt-dlp. This applies to audio as well. I then add the videos to my Jellyfin server to watch them on the TV.
Grayjay
What's the benefit of Grayjay over NewPipe, except for the fact that Grayjay supports other video platforms too?
Grayjay is just plugins for everything, so if you want to add a new platform you can make it
FreeTube is a useful project as it allows you to "fallback" on a non-preferred frontend.
https://github.com/FreeTubeApp/FreeTube
This allows you to continue to use Youtube irregardless of which frontend is (potentially not) working.
In 'Settings > General' you'll want to select "Invidious API" as your "Preferred API backend" and specify your favorite invidious instance in the "Current Invidious Instance" field and click "Set Current Instance as Default". This locks FreeTube into the specified instance.
Then, when you notice that FreeTube is issuing notices to you about your favorite Invidious Instance being down, you can wander back to 'Settings > General'; hit the "Clear Default Invidious Instance" Button and wait as FreeTube magically contacts the "https://api.invidious.io/" page for you and selects a new, and hopefully online and working Invidious instance. (You may have to hit this button several times to roll a working instance, Hit the button, check the subs page and see if everything loads, repeat if it falls back on the Local API.)
When you run into instances where you can't roll up a good Invidious instance; the built in Local API is running a NewPipe Extractor like API directly from your FreeTube client. Not the best; but at least it keeps things working while you wait for the Invidious devs to fix things up; and it still reasonably preserves as much of your privacy as it can while doing this to the best effort it can.
...Sadly this doesn't work when Google manages a double combo of breaking both Invidious and NewPipe; but I have found that this is less often the case and the devs of either project are usually fairly quick about getting fixes out. Bless their hard work with a donation sometime maybe, if you can.
I download it with yt-dlp and watch it with a video player. that way they don't know at what pace do I watch it (when do I rewind and pause, or speed up).
or grayjay when I remember that it exists.
other options for me include FreeTube and NewPipe
Hell, I'm having issues using the plain old YouTube website. It tries to make me sign in.
I signed up for PeerTube, uploaded all my videos there, and updated my old YT vid descriptions that say "can't watch this video? Click here to view ad-free on PeerTube"
New pipe android app. Been using it for years with no issues accessing YouTube.
I pay a subscription to nebula and most of the creators i want are on there.
Freetube and newpipe for me. However I will say they just don't work sometimes. So then I just am left with my browser.
I feel like most have misunderstood the point of the question, they offer to use newpipe, yt-dlp and the like, but those aren't private, they just allow you to watch without signing in, just as you could through the official website with maybe uBlock origin, you're still exposing your IP.
The only fitting suggestion I saw is that of downloading from invidious through yt-dlp, which sounds pretty neat, I had no idea you could when the web frontend is apparently not working
Yes I tried to using freetube with VPN this morning. I have to say.. Its pretty good. But the catch is you have to use a vpn server that is not used by many.
I use grayjay as you can use a google account to bypass the "confirm your not a bot" but then have the ability to subscribe, comment, and save video playback without a google account.
Tubular on on mobile and trying to find a Non Electron app for pc
Vpn
Downie.app (MacOS) and yt-dlp (multiplatform).
I am not watching YouTube content while these are blocked. I will not watch stupid ads. I will not submit to shitty platforms that suck. Until these work again, there is no YouTube.
I'm finding other ways to fill my free time during the holiday break. I'll have a bevy of new content to watch when they're updated.