I've read that Switzerland is safe for torrenting, so I was thinking about using Infomaniak. Does anyone has experience with seeding torrents from their IP addresses ? I'm also interested in other suggestions.

Thank you :)

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[–] RiQuY@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

BuyVM for sure, but maybe you should look for seedboxes, not VPSs.

[–] pcouy@lemmy.pierre-couy.fr 3 points 10 months ago

I want to use my own storage at home. I'm not gonna pay for several TB of storage on a seedbox when I already have the HDD

[–] abacabadabacaba@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

ihostart has cheap VPS offers, and they explicitly allow torrents.

[–] pcouy@lemmy.pierre-couy.fr 3 points 10 months ago

Thank you. I'm definetly gonna check it out

[–] tuhriel@infosec.pub 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just a heads up about switzerland:

downloading movies and music is not illegal, but
uploading is
also download and upload of copyrighted software is illegal

[–] pcouy@lemmy.pierre-couy.fr 3 points 10 months ago

Thank you for the clarification.

I've also read that it's illegal in Switzerland to gather IP addresses because they are considered sensitive PII. Do you know about this, and does it protect me in any way if I use a swiss datacenter IP for seeding my torrents ?

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Have you considered getting a VPN provider and running something like a container set up to run all the traffic through the VPN? Some even offer port forwarding.

It’s basically free for me since I’ve already been paying for the VPN for other use, and that device would be on anyway to serve Plex.

[–] pcouy@lemmy.pierre-couy.fr 2 points 10 months ago

I've considered it and ruled it out. That's why I'm specifically asking for a VPS to install my own VPN own.

I'm really not interested in paying 5+€/month when I can build my own for a fraction of that cost

[–] CaptSpify@lemmy.today 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've long been a fan of edis: https://www.edis.at/

[–] pcouy@lemmy.pierre-couy.fr 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Thanks, I'm going to check it out

[–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 2 points 10 months ago

I wouldn't recommend edis, they are great if you are looking for lesser known countries to hosr something. They are shit in everything else, namedly prices, low-bandwidth (1 tb is nothing if you are planning to torrent), bad support.

Switzerland isn't great when it comes to piracy, Romania, Moldova, Luxemburge, France, Canada are better. You can get cheap vps that won't care on buyvm or alexhost.

[–] nickiam2@aussie.zone 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As others have pointed out, just get a VPN and run your torrents through that. I've used AirVPN and ProtonVPN. Both are P2P friendly and even offer inbound port forwarding. It would be easier to setup and likely cheaper too. Proton is incorporated in Switzerland and has servers all over the world.

[–] pcouy@lemmy.pierre-couy.fr 6 points 10 months ago

This does not answer the question I asked. I've already considered a commercial VPN and I've ruled it out (clearly not cheaper, unless you can find a decent VPN with port forwarding that costs less than 2€/month)

[–] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oracle has a Forever Free tier that I use to host my VPN gateway. It's been running fine for years now.

[–] pcouy@lemmy.pierre-couy.fr 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Are you using it to seed torrents ?

[–] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No, only for Wireguard. For torrents I use Mullvad from my home line.

[–] pcouy@lemmy.pierre-couy.fr 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I've read somewhere Mullvad no longer offers port forwarding. Do you still manage to seed without it ?

[–] jsparrow@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Long story short, in a limited way.

If you look at the protocols available, there are two, BT and μTP.

BT needs one of two peers to have a port open to connect to, either they initiate the connection, or you initiate connection. So if you want to download Arch Linux 2024.12.01(magnet:?xt=urn:btih:265863cbbb5ed9ef39e7c891ebebdf1623b09d5e&dn=archlinux-2024.12.01-x86_64.iso), you'll need to either connect to a seeder that has a port open, or if you have a port open the seeder can connect to you.

μTP can solve this by performing NAT traversal using UDP hole punching. The way this works is a third peer with open ports will relay information for both peers with closed ports to connect to each other.

[–] halm@leminal.space 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I had similar plans, but I opted for a seedbox instead. It gives me some peace of mind not torrenting on my own IP.

[–] pcouy@lemmy.pierre-couy.fr 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I want to use my own storage at home. I'm not gonna pay for several TB of storage on a seedbox when I already have the HDD

[–] halm@leminal.space 2 points 10 months ago

That's fair. Similar situations, different conclusions 🙂

[–] Teddy@programming.dev -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Tailscale?

[–] pcouy@lemmy.pierre-couy.fr 4 points 10 months ago

As far as I know, tailscale still requires me to set up my own exit node