@jon Firefox, despite Mozilla’s current trajectory because the Chromium monopoly will ultimately harm the web.

Hope to use @servo someday 🤞

@jon@vivaldi.net I’m currently trying Zen, which is FF inside and Arc outside, basically.
Re: why, I think Chrome is the new IE6, and we need more engines to keep the web open

@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox, largely because I like supporting an alternative (non-Blink) rendering engine - I think a rendering engine monoculture is very dangerous for the internet as a whole.

@jon@vivaldi.net I would love to support Vivaldi more than I do but I worry about the Chromium base and also Firefox has its own plugin ecosystem.

@jon@vivaldi.net After dropping Opera, I now mostly use Waterfox. Vivaldi is also on my desktop and laptop. But so is Brave, Firefox and DuckDuckGO. Edge is also on there, but only because MS won't allow me to remove it :(

@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox since forever, but with a 2-3 year spell with Opera around 2005 (when Firefox was indescribably slow and unusable). Now just inertia keeping me there. And the feeling that it’s the last hold-out of non-Chromium based browsers. And more recently, continued Manifest v2 support.

@jon@vivaldi.net

#Firefox got a ton of variants/forks recently.

• #Librewolf
• #MullvadBrowser
• #ZenBrowser
• #Midori

So yeah I take Firefox + Arkenfox user.js or Librewolf if they fixed their CI/CD

@jon@vivaldi.net I would love to use Vivaldi, but unfortunately the Ad-Blocker on Android isn't very good - Firefox using ublock-extension or Brave is doing a much better job there.

@jon@vivaldi.net Pale Moon. It's single-process, so if something goes wrong, I can kill the browser simply. It supports the plugins and extensions I need, want, and use on a daily basis. It doesn't support DRM, RTC, or the concepts pushed on us by DoubleClick. I'm very happy with the browser.

@jon@vivaldi.net

I'm pretty sure this just reflects "people who know what a browser is", or least "people who know enough about browsers to have an opinion".

@jon@vivaldi.net Different Browsers for different situations

• Safari
• Edge
• Brave

@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox is my favorite when I can use it, but at least on my new Mac, I found Firefox was misbehaving for inexplicable reasons. Shrug, I don’t mind Safari that much, and for when AdGuard for Safari isn’t working, I also have AdGuard Home running on my home network.

@jon@vivaldi.net Brave

@jon@vivaldi.net I started to really like ARC until recently when I heard they are focusing on a new project. Then I would say Firefox and Safari

@jon@vivaldi.net Brave, as you get a Chromium experience without Google nasties and a built in ad/tracker blocker

@jon@vivaldi.net @Gargron@mastodon.social even though it’s more or less been EOL’d, Arc is by far and away my favorite browser I’ve ever used. Every little UX detail just makes so much sense to me. The chromeless UI, sidebar vertical tabs, folder/favorite/pinned tab organization, auto-archiving tabs, tab spaces, automatic PiP activation, quick actions in the ⌘+T omnibar…

@jon I like Firefox and Vivaldi.

FF is totally open source and often renders fonts better than Chromium-based browsers and the PDF reader is more robust. I'm currently working through an online training module and it's the only PDF program that lets me highlight sections of the provided documentation and will remember changes when I save the document.

Vivaldi has a ton of features and is pretty quick and responsive, especially on Android. Still having odd issues with the mail client and I'm really not sure what to make of or do with the new dashboard though.

@jon
Just wish Google was not used in vivaldi , so when I don't want their influence I use ddg . if there is a way to keep Google completely out of Vivaldi. I'd like to know how.
Thanks MTT

@jon I’ve been using Vivaldi lately, but I also like Firefox and Librewolf. However the internet today feels like that of 2000, so many websites only work with todays IE (Chrome), so yeah, the options are either Chromium or Gecko; and the latter doesn’t work for all websites.

It’s a very sad state of affairs.

@Karen5Lund

@jon@vivaldi.net Good relationship maerketing.
I used Firefox for many years, and I loved it. Before, I was a Netscape user. But Firefox's performance deteriorated over the years, and I switched to Chrome. When I discovered Brave, I moved to it, but it also had some issues, so I´m back to Chrome. Performance and productivity features are great. I am just very aware of data protection issues when using Google products. Still, use Firefox and Brave for some activities. Would Vivaldi be a good alternative?

@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox, because it has good privacy options, and their development tools are very useful

@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox since early times. Now evaluating Vivaldi on Linux and iPad(I know same browser engine as Safari). Just curious

@jon@vivaldi.net #DuckDuckGo is my favorite browser.

@jon only now noticed your handle and who you are...and "Feel free to share why."

For me having an alternative rendering engine is a key reason to stay loyal to Firefox.

So no vivaldi for me though I trust you if you'd say it's wonderful in many other aspects (like features and privacy).

@jon librewolf

@jon
Many, many comments here. :tony_laughing:

So a lot of interest in this question.
No wonder really, here on 'Mastodon'.

Veery good. :tony_wee:

Maybe someone else is interested in digging through here. ;-) ;-)

I'm sure several people will take a closer look at the 'Vivaldiserve' afterwards.
https://vivaldi.com

:tony_smiling: :tony_happy:

@jon@vivaldi.net Chrome for better Android integration and web unfortunately is made thinking chrome, some sites not open correctly in Firefox so ... A maintain Firefox for web development only, every other task Chrome

@jon@vivaldi.net I run with @Waterfox@mastodon.social and @brave@mastodon.social on my daily machines, but have access to #Opera, #Edge, #Firefox and #Chrome for UI testing.

@jon@vivaldi.net de puis que je utilise le navigateur Vivaldi j'ai une paix royale en plus des nombreuse fonctionnalité proposé sur ce navigateur Vivaldi je le trouve formidable merci beaucoup monsieur .

@jon@vivaldi.net I have no favourite browser anymore since Opera 12. I don't want to support the Chromium dominance but Firefox still feels clunky. I have some sympathy for the Zen browser project. And then there's Vivaldi, with a lot of stuff I appreciated when I was still using Opera. But … Chromium, you know 🤷.

@jon@vivaldi.net After testing all the browsers my favourite is Vivaldi due to their focus on privacy and no crypto crap. I also like to browse their forums which has been helpful to me at times.

@jon@vivaldi.net https://thorium.rocks/

@jon@vivaldi.net
Vivaldi is my daily driver, looking into Librewolf as my not-Chrome.
What I'd really like is the Vivaldi shell, as & tracker blocking, etc, with the Firefox HTML & js engines. No google or moz bullshit, just a nice clean shell and engines.

@jon@vivaldi.net Safari because it’s fast, reliable, has a beautiful design, fits well in the Apple ecosystem and it’s not Chromium!

@jon@vivaldi.net
I love Vivaldi for the theme. The overall design is awesome.
I also love Safari because the battery duration feels way longer when using a Mac.

@jon@vivaldi.net Chrome and Brave - I don't care about Google as we pay a lot of money for SaaS by Google, there's no alternative to

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Sometimes i take Vimb for lighter browsing, but for the most time i stay attached to Firefox for the whole browsing experience and sync my tablet, laptop & smartphone with it.

@jon

I currently use:

Firefox on the desktop
Librewolf on the Linux laptop
Waterfox on my main phone

Vivaldi on my other persona on desktop, laptop and second phone.

Also going to try Floop and Zen.

Ostensibly I want to use Firefox forks but I find Vivaldi pretty cool despite being Chromium, especially on mobile.

TBH, none of them are ideal. I'd love to have one browser with multiple profiles across multiple devices, but I find that doesn't work for me.

@jon I like Zen browser because it comes with vertical tabs, screenshot feature, and familiar dev tools.

Moreover, unlike Safari, it works well on macOS and Slack notification. When I checked my Slack tab on Safari, I usually found that it didn't load the page yet although I didn't shutdown or restart the computer.

@jon

asking us to vote between:
- Chrome
- Chrome
- Chrome
- Safari
- Firefox
- Chrome
- other (but mostly Chrome)

@jon

Firefox because it isn't chromium, and I just like it. With chromium, google controls the web. Doesn't matter what kind of wrapper a third party puts on it. It's still chromium and it's still google.