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Wayland. It comes up a lot: “Bug X fixed in the Plasma Wayland session.” “The Plasma Wayland session has now gained support for feature Y.” And it’s in the news quite …

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[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Great article. I'm currently still on X because Plasma 5 doesn't handle fractional scaling well. As soon as that changes (Plasma 6?) I'll be jumping over to Wayland.

[–] Tschuuuls@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago

X handles fractional scaling terrible as well lol. Has caused terrible tearing and framedrops for me on a Framework 13.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

And this is what I am talking. Fragmentation. Fractional scaling extension exists in wayland protocol for a year of more.

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[–] macallik@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago

Good read, provided context that I didn't have before as a newbie

[–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I want to switch to Wayland. I try it every month to see if it is working with my system and so far it is not.

Ubuntu 23.04/Nvidia 3080/Steam. It use to work with the old big picture mode but when steam went to the new one, Wayland broke for me.

[–] d_k_bo@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago

That's weird. I thought Steam doesn't support Wayland at all and runs using XWayland.

[–] mranderson17@infosec.pub 2 points 2 years ago

Gamescope makes the experience a lot better with steam at least for me in swaywm. I experimented with running each game in gamescope using launch options but with gamescope's mediocre support of the steam overlay some multiplayer invite stuff doesn't work correctly. Running steam in bigpicture within gamescope pretty much solves all these issues and seems to improve performance too.

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[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So most complaints you read about Wayland missing this or that (such as fractional scaling, or screen sharing, or global shortcuts) from over a year or two ago are likely to be wrong today.

Is fractional scaling in Wayland really working now? I tried it a while ago and everything was blurry mess.

[–] wheels@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just tried this and it was blurry until I logged out and back in!

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just tried it on my laptop and xwayland apps are still blurry mess, even after restart. However, all apps I use now has Wayland support that can be enabled with some flags or environmental variables, so they are actually usable now with fractional scaling. Finally I can use my laptop with 175% scaling, which is much more comfortable than 200% scaling.

[–] nora@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

In display settings check the box to allow x11 apps to scale themselves instead of the compositor. Your cursor will still be blurry but the app content itself will be fine. A few apps like steam won't scale without some kind of launch flag though.

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[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

It's working with Sway from a quick test:

swaymsg output DP-1 scale 1.7

But XWayland is blurry as expected (that's the big blocker, or all useful apps being ported to Wayland).

[–] clemdemort@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'd run Wayland on my main PC but Nvidia drivers don't support Wayland too well, when they do I'll switch over but for now I'll wait

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm gonna give it an honest go once KDE Plasma 6 hits the arch repos.

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[–] Drito@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

We need another display system. Something more dev friendly and more desktop agnostic.

I seems Wlroots is designed to be server agnostic (despite the name), if it is bound to a new display server many apps should be available.

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