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I mean jesus christ there was a slight dip in turnout for the MAGA people but 15 million dropped off the face of the planet for the Dems from 2020. That's gotta be fucking historic. I do hope this will be a radicalising moment for a lot of well-intentioned liberals.

They fumbled 4 states that Biden flipped, and Trump came pretty fucking close to flipping NY. If this doesn't awaken people to the political dead end that is the Democratic party I don't know what will.

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[–] SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net 85 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Virginia also almost flipped for Trump. Harris Won by like 52-47 when the polls had her 10 points ahead. Shows you what the Cheneys accomplished in Ratheon Acres.

[–] BobDole@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago
[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ray* Acres is the place for me
Military is the life for me
Land spreadin' out so far and wide
Keep Manhattan, just give me that countryside

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*Raytheon has too many syllables.

Green Acres theme

I haven't thought about that song for decades but the words "Raytheon Acres" made me think of it almost immediately.

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

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[–] LigOleTiberal@hexbear.net 81 points 1 year ago (3 children)

supposedly the drop in democratic voters was because everyone in 2020 did mail in ballots because of the pandemic, and that easy method of voting was not available as widely in 2024.

which means democrats fucked up by not passing a law making mail in ballots universal.

[–] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The fact that Biden and the dems couldn’t get voter reform passed is honestly pathetic. I know Sinema was doing… her thing. But you can’t tell me the political parties don’t get real dirty (like threatening the lives of family members or something) when they really need someone to fall in line.

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

Manchin's daughter was RIGHT THERE the WHOLE TIME

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

Wait for them to go on vacation

Drone strike them

Replace them with party loyalists

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago

100-com my tbought too. Yet another way dems blow every possible advantage, becayse they'd rather lose supporting the status quo than win by being even a hair left of dick cheney

[–] Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 year ago

You got me curious so I went looking for numbers and I think you're right.

2020

Total Early Votes: 101,453,111 • In-Person Votes: 35,811,062 • Mail Ballots Returned: 65,642,049 • Mail Ballots Outstanding: 26,576,729 Voters have requested a total of 92,218,778 ballots in the reporting states.

2024

68,235,905 mail-in and early in-person votes requested nationally

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 69 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You also can't just be like "Nothing comes to mind" when asked what you'll be doing differently than your historically unpopular predecessor.

Ettingermentum put it well on Hasan's stream, the Dems lost because they insisted on doing the politics they want to do while consistently telling the electorate to go fuck themselves.

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Something did come to mind though: More genocide and more bipartisanship with the party she is saying is full of insane fascists

[–] SoJB@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago

They came so close to triggering a stochastic assassination of the Great Satan and backed out at the last moment.

And even that, is so unsurprisingly liberal of them.

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 66 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I do hope this will be a radicalising moment for a lot of well-intentioned liberals.

They’re getting radicalized alright, just not in the direction you would hope for.

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They either are going into a) full-on doomerism, this country sucks, will never elect a woman, is fully racist, etc. Which does make sense.
Or b) they're getting mad at the Dems, which is my preferred outcome so glad to see it happening all over the place.
Or c) they're getting mad at minorities, including Latinos and Arabs. Which sucks but is not unexpected either in this fascist af country.

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Learning that the democrats simply don't give a shit is what set me on my current path.

[–] Voidance@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago

Offered nothing except 'not Trump' for the third time in a row

[–] Doubledee@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago

Yeah "vote for us or things will get worse faster" appears to have hit its breaking point as a useful strategy, assuming it ever was one.

[–] adultswim_antifa@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

Trump's probably going to get 312 electoral votes when it's official, compared to 304 in 2016. He won the popular vote by a 4.45% and a republican hasn't won the popular vote by that much since 1988. People do not like Donald Trump. I bet he'll enter office with an approval rating below 50%.

[–] TC_209@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

Course-correcting on a few key issues might have been enough to net the couple hundred thousand votes necessary to eke out an EC victory, but instead she told potential supporters to shut up ("I'm speaking!") while pursuing endorsements from Liz and Dick fucking Cheney. Hoe-lee shit.

[–] ThisMachinePostsHog@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

I've realized that I was the most engaged with the Democratic party when there was a faction that platformed raising the minimum wage, implementing universal healthcare, and taking measures to make housing affordable & create a federal jobs guarantee. Those stances are non-existent now, and the party truly has nothing to offer other than not being the Republicans. So what does Kamala do? Try to remake the party's image as a friendly space for Republicans who think Trump is a little too nasty. I have no interest in voting for a Diet Republican Party, and obviously millions of other people feel the same. If people want substantive change (as much as is possible via liberal electoralism), and all you're offering is, "We're the same as the other party, but not as loud about our disdain for minorities, the poor, and the women & children of Palestine!", they're just going to stay home. Awesome strategy. joker-amerikkklap

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

Now begins the good times for the democrat party where they can rake in donations by pointing at how bad the orange man is without having to actually govern and make people mad at them.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

last time was basically mondale and reagan, where mondale ran to the right of fucking reagan

[–] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

“Everyone” was predicting a shoe-in in Kopmala’s favor. By everyone I mean all the political modeling, the pundits etc.

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

I feel like by the eve of the election the main stream opinion was coin toss. 538 certainly was.

[–] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

the betting markets were against her, which is unfortunately influential in all this shit.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago