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I was explaining this to my daughter in quite simplified terms the other day- we evolved to taste sugar and enjoy it because finding a sweet edible plant meant we had a source of energy to help us hunt that day. Pretty useful if you're a hunter-gatherer.

So we seek out sugar. Now we can get it whenever we want it, in much more massive quantities than we are supposed to be processing. Most of us are addicted. I'm not an exception.

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[-] iii@mander.xyz 7 points 2 weeks ago

Pretty bold to assume I'm not a hunter gatherer

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Hmm that's super interesting.

[-] angrystego@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You're perfectly right. And it's not just about energy, which there is a lot of in oils and proteins too. In nature, the sweetest things you'll get are different kinds of fruit - all packed full of vitamins, antioxidants, fiber and whatnot. And they're seasonal, so if you don't eat them right away, you're going to have to wait another year. So our taste makes us eat as much as we can. Sugar, of cours, is cheating.

(I just happen to be on my way to buy some pastries.)

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[-] supercriticalcheese@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

What is this referring to Natural sugar or added sugar? Normally the yoghurt doesn't have added sugars beyond what were presswnt are in the milk originally.

For sauces you can easily read the labels and find which ones contain added sugar, at least in europ it's mandatory listing that.

[-] finestnothing@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

It's added sugar - and yoplait/chobani add a lot of sugar. Yogurt with no added sugar has no more sugar than the milk used to make it does and it is mouth-puckeringly tangy. I make my own yogurt and you pretty much need honey with it to make it palatable with fruit (some people eat unsweetened yogurt without the honey... Those people scare me)

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yoplait and Chobani definitely have extra added sugar.

[-] Professorozone@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Did you use the calories or the grams of sugar to determine the amount?

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

i guarantee im not eating any of that sugar

[-] Ravi@feddit.org 5 points 2 weeks ago

Check out how much sugar they put into frozen pizza. It's basically a sweet.

[-] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Pretty much any fruit flavoured food that is not artificial will contain sugar from the fruit juice. But most companies add sugar anyway.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Oh yeah - I've had to start watching my carbohydrate intake for health reasons and it's amazing just how much of that stuff is in processed food: for example "American Style Onion Rings (frozen)" from Lidl is over 40% carbohydrates - so basically the 450g pack of it has 180g of sugars and the kind of stuff your digestive system will turn into sugars.

One would think it would be only starchy foods (like bread, pasta, rice and such) and cakes and sweets that have lots of it, but no, most processed food is loaded with carbohydrates, often already directly as sugars, probably because the cheapest ingredient to bulk it up is flour.

Mind you, lots of natural or lightly processed foods have quite a bit of it - for example natural yoghurt with nothing added has maybe 6% of carbohydrates (tough yoghurt with fruit is way worse, since the adding of fruit is generally mixing it with fruit jam which has a lot of sugar) and most fruits have quite a bit of sugar (for example, common varieties of apple have about 14% of sugar - so your run of the mill apple comes with 1 spoonful of sugar included - and some varieties have a lot more) which is why there's this funny paradox that natural fruit juice has a lot more sugar in it than the same amount of Coca-Cola (since when you make the fruit juice you throw away the fiber and most of the protein leaving a much higher percentage of sugar than originally).

Generally, the kind of stuff that has almost no carbohydrates are veggies, like lettuce or broccoli.

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[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Always spend the extra buck or two for the better sauces. Actually I've started making a mean meat sauce as I found a fantastic place to get red bell peppers (for a dollar more but huge difference); their sweetmess easily offsets the acidity of the tomatoes (although better sauces use better tomatoes or cook longer). Also don't overcook your garlic, it's sweetest when it's less cooked.

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[-] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Always check the labels for the ingredient list. The order of ingredients corresponds to how much of each ingredient there is.

When your "diet yogurt" has more sugar than milk ingredients, its not diet yogurt.

[-] pinkystew@reddthat.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

Oh that's why yoplait is so fucking good

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Right, bad healthcare => no pressure to make people' lives healthier. I guess that's why you still don't have a less sugar novement?

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

There is a bit of a grass roots one, but part of the problem is that it's entirely on the consumption side, as in people deciding to have less sugar. Even proposed legislation solutions involve controlling the consumption side, though at the final product production level.

Which means that sugar producers are still trying to produce the maximum amount of sugar to make the most profit and the lowered demand just ends up driving the price down and makes it more attractive to others to add more sugar. If that lower price is still profitable, then sugar producers can continue full steam ahead.

I've noticed something similar with plastics. Demand is lowered in some areas by legislation (like no plastic straws or single use bags), but plastic is still being produced at volume, so prices go down and other products switch from non-plastic packaging to plastic. I'll call out Betty Crocker homestyle instant mashed potatoes specifically here, that went from a cardboard box containing two paper/metal pouches to a single plastic pouch, which also means it's more of a pain to make only half the package and more likely to create more food waste in addition to plastic waste.

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