Vote for the change you want to see.
The Republican party got remade because trumpists showed up and outvoted the party elites. No reason it can't happen for the Left except for laziness and apathy.
If all the progressives furious about the state of affairs now had shown up for Sanders in 2016, I doubt we'd be in this hellish timeline. Sadly, he needed the young progressive vote to show up.
As a leftist who's been voting in Democratic primaries for the last 24 years: Outside of some extreme enclaves in major cities there aren't enough of us to make a difference that way.
But conveniently there are enough of you that being alienated and not wanting to vote for the Dems is enough of you to lose the entire election and it's all your fault yadda yadda yadda.
Important enough to cost the election, yet not important enough to influence anything.
It makes sense that we can cost them the election and not have any power in the primary, considering we're the minority
Look up Jerry Falwell and the Moral Majority.
Jerry made the Evangelicals a huge power in the GOP by simply having his people show up at every single GOP organizing meeting.
If twenty people had picked the nominee for dog catcher last term, the Moral Majority would show up with 50. Those county clerks and sheriffs were soon followed by Mayors and Governors and Congress members...
Now that's a smart strategy, we need to get organized on this level.
People need to stop focusing on how Hilary beat Bernie and look at how Obama beat Hilary.
You would vote in the Republic primaries...
Don't try to stretch the Overton window. You need to move the right side of the window left.
This is how black people in the south managed the Democratic party; by voting for the least racist Democrats in the primaries, no matter who won the general election they were better off.
It's basically ad hoc ranked choice and it prevents extremist candidates from winning.
This is how black people in the south managed the Democratic party; by voting for the least racist Democrats in the primaries
The black voter enjoyed a heavy Republican bias for nearly a century, and suffered much of the same treatment (GOP treated them as a captured constituency, Dixiecrats suppressed their turnout with fraud, incarceration, and terrorism).
By Kennedy, the northern Dems were embracing civil rights not as an electoral strategy but a labor organizing strategy. The vote was largely split, with black voters biasing by party in individual regions rather than as a national block.
It wasn't into Clinton - when Southern Strategy Repubs had fully purged their party of black voters - that the trend was fully reversed. That wasn't a decision by the NAACP or the median black voter. It was a Nixonian gambit. Black voters were viewed as a handicap. Appealing to fascism was how you obtained a majority in American politics.
Reagan, the Bushs, and then Trump seemed to further this theory. You'll get two white voters for every black voter you lose, by being the most racist candidate in the ticket.
We tried that. The result was Wilding vs DNC Services Corp.
Bernie was doing well in 2016 until the DNC kneecapped him.
Get money out elections if you want change, but neither party is willing to. The oligarchy works for itself
Obama outperformed the establishment Democratic candidate in 2008 and became the candidate. It's not impossible.
Oh to go back to a pre citizens united world! lol
I am once again asking to get money out of politics.
Get. Money. Out. Of. Politics.
Get money out of politics.
Do all 3?
remind me, what Primary did I get to vote in to pick against Harris?
That super cool one with Dean Philips and Marianne Williamson. But frankly there wasn't really a ready pool of willing candidates, and there still isn't.
The very public V.P. courtship process was sort of the de facto primary we got. Or the closest thing to it.
What Democratic primaries?
In case you're unaware, there were tons of them around the nation. There wasn't one for the president this time, but there were still plenty of primaries that were very influential. Your local officials have more impact on you than the president does.
There wasn’t one for the president this time, but there were still plenty of primaries that were very influential.
There technically was, it just not one where other candidates can really compete. The incumbent is pretty much guaranteed to win their primary.
AOC has entered the chat.
The guy she unseated in the primary was along term incumbent with lots of connections to the NYC establishment.
If the DNC was fully filled with a bunch of AOC types, we'd be leagues ahead on so many things this country is fucking up.
Granted, that is in part dependent on a country that would accept an AOC style DNC.
Look at what FDR actually did back in the day. If we had a CCC today they'd be working on climate change and high speed rail.
Yeah, it's boring and hard. That's just life. Now get out and vote or get used to living in a christofascist hell.
Not the best argument in 2024 given the circumstance but yes, in 2020, the "we need someone to beat Trump" crowd scoffed on the idea of Warren (my pick) or Bernie. But with the current system it kind of makes less sense too since Biden mostly won support in states he had no shot winning, so by the time it was even CAs turn there was no hope.
At least in 2008 I felt like it worked. Obama was a thousand times better than Clinton.
You underestimate the power of whining online.
MAGA is the result of decades of talk radio and pseudo-journalism aimed at curating a very specific way of seeing the world.
They refined a narrative that was persuasive, easy to upload into people, consistent in how it framed emergent issues, and instilled a sense of urgency that encouraged its adherents to spread the gospel and get politically active.
Obviously, we need to vote. But if you think victory is getting a Bernie 2.0 to 51% in a primary, you’re gonna be sorely disappointed by the general. It needs to be a slam dunk. We need a cultural win before we can have an electoral win.
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