monerobros.club | The XMPP instance dedicated to monero lovers and cypherpunks! (monero.town)

submitted 1 year ago by moneromaxi@monero.town to c/monero@monero.town

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Why do we keep using something as bad as matrix?

No native proxy support (because it depends mostly on UDP and WebRTC), bloated clients (for the major part) and not truly decentralized (most users just registered on matrix.org's servers and seem to not even know about other instances or self-hosting).

XMPP has been out for years and supports different type of E2EE, from the widely known PGP, to OTR and the newest and most used OMEMO.

No web registration is required, you can do all in-client behind a comfy proxy (like Tor) :).

Recommended clients:

Desktop: Gajim, Profanity (CLI only) [please don't use MacOS or Windows]
Mobile: Monocles [Graphene or any other privacy rom is highly suggested]

Proxies for mobile devices: InviZible Pro, should be runned in VPN mode [for desktop just install the Tor daemon for your distribution]

Get out of the Matrix (literally), be free from companies and bullshit.

From a cypherpunk.

P.S. calls on this instance are disabled for security reasons and because the server is still not capable enough. Might consider to turn them on in the future.

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[-] moneromaxi@monero.town 4 points 1 year ago

We are already hosting the MUC (multi-user chat) for revuo-xmr.com. If you want to join it: revuo@conference.monerobros.club

[-] ShadowRebel@monero.town 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

nice

I got a video on XMPP too. animated… Another matrix vs XMPP one coming soon also. but this is on XMPP vs Signal and OMEMO vs OTR https://video.simplifiedprivacy.com/xmpp/

[-] moneromaxi@monero.town 1 points 1 year ago

The way you speak is very annoying, sounds like AI

[-] k4r4b3y@mitra.karapara.net 1 points 1 year ago

@moneromaxi @ShadowRebel I am guessing he hires a fiverr guy to do the dubs.. He should curb the enthusiasm a little.

[-] ShadowRebel@monero.town 0 points 1 year ago

might have been too excited on that one. the 2nd matrix vs xmpp is more calm: https://video.simplifiedprivacy.com/xmpp-vs-matrix-why-matrix-sucks/

[-] zeroxmr@monero.town 2 points 1 year ago

I've been looking to go back and see if any people actually use xmpp, this seems most opportune. What were the true cyberpunks using before this, though?

[-] moneromaxi@monero.town 2 points 1 year ago

Hope to see you on the agora and marketplace soon

[-] 01011@monero.town 2 points 1 year ago

irc

[-] alphonse@monero.town 1 points 1 year ago

As a female, i would never start using something called monerobros. Good luck with that tho

[-] Saki@monero.town 2 points 1 year ago

I’d like at least this place (Monero.Town) to be friendly to everyone, including children, girls, guys, and others. Previously, like a year or half a year ago, creating something like “Monero Garden” (or “kindergarten”?) was suggested perhaps based on a thought like that. I don’t mean a “safe place” heavily monitored and moderated, though.

When I had posted “Undisputed Champion” in Monero Meme a few days ago, I couldn’t help but feeling that the guy depicted was too rude — not for political correctness or something but based on my intrinsic feelings, while also assuming that guys would probably feel nothing off about this… That is to say, freedom of speech is such a core value for me that I accept in principle, and even affirmatively support, expressions that are rude, insulting to me or ourselves.

I know what you mean and can totally relate to what you pointed out; on the other hand, it’s just an identifier — e.g. “Gaki“ from kyun or “CockMail” are also pejorative or inappropriate if you know the language yet what really matters is not the name of a variable, but what is pointed-to by it.

What’s in a name? That which we call Monero By any other name would work as well…

[-] moneromaxi@monero.town 2 points 1 year ago

Sorry for not being politically correct or female friendly. This is the real world, deal with it. If you want to donate me the money to get monerogirls.club I will be very happy to connect it to the running server.

This was very fun to read and had a good laugh, lol

[-] alphonse@monero.town 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No point in saying sorry, then being rude. You want to talk about the real world, but then your write like that.... that made me laugh.

Your title reads; 'dedicated to monero lovers and cypherpunks!'. You should rather write 'dedicated to male monero lovers and male cypherpunks!' as it would be more accurate. Don't make yourself a liar. Idc what 'service' you create or what you call it. I was giving you some insight, which you clearly lacked

[-] Saki@monero.town 1 points 1 year ago

As much as you’re free to be trapped in the conventional box, one is free to use or redefine languages; one may say, “you guys” among girls; anyone (male, female, neither or non-binary) is free to join some community of “brethren.” Males are welcome to live in a “sister city.”

For better anonymity, it could be actually more convenient as a decoy-shield if the name is misleading. As they say, “To fool your enemies, fool your friends first.” Although, this doesn’t change the fact that your point is valid & many people are often thinking in-the-box, including myself. If you feel someone is too stupid, you can ignore them without wasting your time & energy. Just a thought.