If they did not collect any information, they would not have any information to give when they are served a subpoena.
How else would they store and sync the information?
Encrypt it end to end with them not having the keys
They do have to retrieve old messages when new users join though. I’m sure the government can force them to lett them in a server and unlock the roles
Why?
Why is channel history needed for new users?
Back in the IRC days you joined a channel that was just empty, if you wanted the history you had to run an IRC client continously, I remember running screen irssi on a separate computer and sshing into the server, reconnecting the screen with irssi in it.
If you want the history automatically, you can't expect privacy.
I remember running screen irssi on a separate computer and sshing into the server, reconnecting the screen with irssi in it.
I still do that today.
Because a lot of people go to discord servers to access existing information?
That is a good point, I have never done that, and to me it is just a chat system....
90% of the reason I even have discord is because people much smarter than me use it to share information. Nobody uses other areas suited for sharing information anymore. It's either Reddit or discord.
Discord sucks and nobody should use it.
The only thing that really sucks about it is that knowledge that was openly searchable is now locked away behind logins.
no, you're also effectively locked out of any participation unless you provide an email address and phone number, which they won't even tell you about in advance but use dark patterns and gaslighting that they noticed "suspicious activity" to step by step first ask you for an email and then once that is validated they prompt you for a phone number. the only thing they don't do yet is ask for ID.
I keep trying to take out my phone number because I don't want strangers seeing that shit, but... then "suspicious activity" gets detyected seconds later...
Validation level is set by server owners, you are unlikely to need to verify a phone number except in the biggest (and therefore spammiest) servers
it doesn't seem to be server specific because once prompted there is no way to use the account again, even if you decided to just not use a server that may have these settings set.
I say we return to IRC
While this is true, Discord has a massive user base, so it’s somewhat a privacy win for the common person
its still the old chicken&egg problem: if you dont have communities you dont have users, and if you dont have users you dont have communities
thats why everyone sticks to discord
Social inertia and an extra helping of users hate having to learn things.
Well, you are on Lemmy aren't you
Well yeah, cuz there are quite a lot of communities and users already
And he's the only one.
We are all Estebiu alts.
Matrix is promising, but I think it still could use a bit more polish. That said, I run a discord community, and soon one of these days I'm going to make a Matrix version of it and encourage users to try it out. Though very few probably will.
What's a good alternative that allows easy instant message, voice and video calls, and makes it easy to group my friends by game?
I have been using revolt, going to setup my own server once I get better lol, last 3 times have been a cluster fuck to get it working. I got mattermost working the first try but it's a slack replacement not discord.
I get that they have different target user base, but honestly, what’s the difference?
Roles and permissions. Slack and mattermost is just allowed and disallowed to each channel.
Steam group chat? It's structured in the same way.
You can create channels for people to join with Steam?
Yeah, if you open the friends window on the bottom it should have a group chats bar with a button to create a server and then it works like discord where you can add additional text and voice channels
Life has gotten better since I dropped it. Moved a dozen or so people over to Signal and have been running with that ever since.
I do miss the ability to easily stream games, though.
The attorney called Nexon’s demands “improper and overly burdensome”
They will give you up in a heartbeat as long as they don't have to do the extra work of finding you.
Discord isn't protecting anyone's privacy just their bottom dollar
Discord is committed to fulfilling its obligations under the law
Well, I have no First Amendment rights, so there's that.
Of course it's Nexon.
I've never played a Nexus game, and I'm definitely not going to start now. People who are pirating a game aren't usually doing it bcz they hate the company, or have a vendetta of any kind. It's usually a money issue. People are more than happy to pay for games when they have money, and you're not a shit company.
No, it's a convenience/service issue. Last time i've seen a third-party launcher was Mirrors Edge on Steam proton, and that thing failed to run since it wanted to open more than my security limit of 50k files, which no game hit before.
That's exactly what I'd say if I wanted to catch the bigger fishes.
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