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Ironic for a group that currently obsesses over anti-genocide to be pro-genocide;
"Even if every absurd fabrication that the anti-communist propagandists like to parrot about the millions supposedly killed by Stalin, Mao, etc. was true, those numbers would pale in comparison to the number of lives they saved, "
also
Creating gender equality
Until Stalin reversed it all lol (there are also no high-ranking women in the Chinese government -- ever)
What we really need is a female let totalitarian dictatorship.
Source: The Onion
See, out of a somewhat displaced curiosity, I'd actually like to see that. Would it turn out the "same" as previous mainly patriarchic autocracies? Would it collapse? Any interesting policies?
Ask Bangladesh, Sheikh Hasina was widely considered to be an autocrat.
I'm guessing it didn't go too well?
To put it mildly. But what are few massacres and disappearances between friends.
And in democracies you also have examples like Thatcher. The problem with the patriarchy is the patriarchy in general, not the genitals of the person in charge.
be the change you want to see
im not even going to touch their disdain towards imperialism while also praising modern-day china. i'd drown in the irony. Quick, someone, throw me a buoy!
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15590383/
Yep, no domestic violence or sexist culture here, none whatsoever, China is a glorious wonderland of sexual and gender equality /s.
(there are also no high-ranking women in the Chinese government – ever)
Huh. I hadn't noticed. Which says nothing good about China, obviously, but it also highlights how a sausage-fest government does not stand out to us.
"Communism has poven track record of working"
More like a proven record of not working. How many communist countries are still around today? How many of those are places you would want to live? If they are communist they are also heavily authoritarian. At the end of the day communism "works" if you only believe what the state propaganda tells you. The reality is that forcing people into jobs and trying to eliminate competition ends up hurting diversity of thought. It is no surprise every communist revolution is a violent one. Add that to the fact that the farms completely fell apart and were not producing much output and you have a disaster that has to be covered up.
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Cuba: Heavy US Sanctions.
Vietnam: Heavy US Bombing campaign.
Laos: Heavy US bombing campaign.
Basically any socialist experiment you can point toward, almost certainly you will also find either a US war, coup, or sanctions.
Yeah, you can use Cuba. The embargoes are stupid.
But Vietnam and Laos have recovered from the wars. Vietnam has one of the world's fastest-growing economies. Laos is more difficult due to its size, but it has free markets with Thailand and China, and the Laos government is even beginning to open up more expressive freedoms for people due to the presence of Thai trade.
also you'll find communist nations also putting sanctions on the US. It's not much of an argument though, since their sanctions are obviously weaker.
For a second I thought you were a tankie
i believe there is an important distinction between communist and tankie
Though, real talk. I do think communism will become standard in the future, but not in our lifetimes, of course.
Correlation ≠ Causation
Perhaps it just so happened that Mao took control around the same time medical sciences obtained a break through in some field.
If we did universal healthcare and killed ten percent of left-handed people, then statistically, that's a net plus. Statistics are not soft and friendly things.
Relatively speaking that graph does show Asia having closed the gap between the global average. But it's a wee bit hard to isolate 'China' from 'Asia'.
When you add western nations, they're far above both the global average and China.